Stoatwobbler Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Well give me one good reason why the EU should exist anyway! The EU Single Market is a very good reason indeed why the EU should exist. Without it international trade would be much more difficult for all of us and we would all be poorer as a result. Now on the other hand we have the Euro, and I for one think that we would be in a much better place if the EU had never dreamt that one up in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Even if Single Market is a good idea [debatable], no EU is needed for it. See EFTA, NAFTA, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love_rat Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 If we were to default on any loans (if we were in the EU), would the UK be thrown out of Europe? If so, I think we should rack up as much debt as possible, and then be shown the door by Merkil and Sarcozy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 If we were to default on any loans (if we were in the EU), would the UK be thrown out of Europe? If so, I think we should rack up as much debt as possible, and then be shown the door by Merkil and Sarcozy No, rather than waiting to be pushed off the sinking vessel, let's jump. If you're in the sea but tied to a lead weight, it's best to untie it and swim free. [insert own metaphor here] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollwithit Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 We should bail them out in return for free all inclusive holidays in Greece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoatwobbler Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 If we were to default on any loans (if we were in the EU), would the UK be thrown out of Europe? If so, I think we should rack up as much debt as possible, and then be shown the door by Merkil and Sarcozy Well we are in the European Union, but happily we are not in the Euro. Therefore were we to get into the same economic mess as Greece could let our own currency fall through the floor without taking everyone else down with us as we are not tied to the Eurozone by sharing a comon currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Well we are in the European Union, but happily we are not in the Euro. Therefore were we to get into the same economic mess as Greece could let our own currency fall through the floor without taking everyone else down with us as we are not tied to the Eurozone by sharing a comon currency. Have you checked the exchange rate recently. Considering the basket case state of the Euro, the pound hasn't made much progress. Roughly a 20% devaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoatwobbler Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Have you checked the exchange rate recently. Considering the basket case state of the Euro, the pound hasn't made much progress. Roughly a 20% devaluation. I don't think the current valuation of the Euro looks quite right given the debts of some of the major states but hey what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I don't think the current valuation of the Euro looks quite right given the debts of some of the major states but hey what do I know? I'm no expert either:D If Greece/Italy/Spain had been able to let their currency behave like ours, we might all be in a little bit of a better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeybear Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Greek Gov leaks money hand over fist and income tax has always been almost optional, the people don't like the new taxes and will prob vote no to the euro given the chance. apparantly Greece is now the most powerful country in the eurozone, if they say no to the new measures then thats it for the euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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