Berberis Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 You seem to be attributing all sorts of things to me. I campaign for the welfare of all animals unlike some who pick and choose their campaigns based on prejudice. Are you saying that my concerns with both Kosher and Halal is based on prejudice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Sorry, 88% not 90%. My bad! http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/britain-first-tried-to-invade-a-halal-slaughterhouse-it-went-very-badly--ZJx_7ZbKWMb Still looks high when compared to the figures I quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbud Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Be nice if there was so much concern for how an animal lives before it is slaughtered. Not the phoney sympathy for how they died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Be nice if there was so much concern for how an animal lives before it is slaughtered. Not the phoney sympathy for how they died. You have to start somewhere. You change the world one step at a time. Too many people (like you) will say there is a bigger issue and use this as an excuse. It's a lazy way to do nothing while appearing to have concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbud Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 You have to start somewhere. You change the world one step at a time. Too many people (like you) will say there is a bigger issue and use this as an excuse. It's a lazy way to do nothing while appearing to have concern. You do have to start somewhere. Why start at the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Are you saying that my concerns with both Kosher and Halal is based on prejudice? There you go again, trying to put words in my mouth. My argument is that there are many people who complain about Halal and Kosher (H & K) methods who are silent on other animal welfare issues. I realise that this is a generalisation but 9 times out of 10 people who post complaining about H & K are those, on other threads, complaining about anything Islamic. I campaign on all animal welfare issues and do not restrict myself to ideologically based issues. I just wish that those who complain about H & K would devote as much time and effort to other cruelty issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 More than 90% of halal meat is stunned before its killed anyway, so the animal wouldn't feel a thing. Where do you get this figure from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 My argument is that there are many people who complain about Halal and Kosher (H & K) methods who are silent on other animal welfare issues. I realise that this is a generalisation but 9 times out of 10 people who post complaining about H & K are those, on other threads, complaining about anything Islamic. You are connecting things that are not necessarily connected other than in your own opinion. Just because a person dislikes Islam, that doesn't mean their dislike for Kosher and Halal slaughter is suddenly invalid. Infact you are showing an intolerance of peoples opinions based purely on your disagreement with them on another subject. A point of view is not validated by the person who makes it. Not wishing to enact Godwin's law but Hitler being the renowned **** he was, supported the banning of Fox hunting. His opinion on fox hunting is no less valid than anyone elses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 The 2016 Oskar Schindler Award For Humanitarian Magnificence goes to..... Not looking for any kind of award. As a meat eater I am concerned how we slaughter our animals, no more no less. Angel1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningman1 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 You are connecting things that are not necessarily connected other than in your own opinion. Just because a person dislikes Islam, that doesn't mean their dislike for Kosher and Halal slaughter is suddenly invalid. Infact you are showing an intolerance of peoples opinions based purely on your disagreement with them on another subject. A point of view is not validated by the person who makes it. Not wishing to enact Godwin's law but Hitler being the renowned **** he was, supported the banning of Fox hunting. His opinion on fox hunting is no less valid than anyone elses. True but you miss the point. If the only animal welfare issue someone is concerned with is Halal meat, then it indicates an ulterior motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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