A poll on attitudes to pornography

[Frank Sidney]

I once worked with someone who's 13 year old son was looking at child porn..He downloaded a pic to show his mates..One of the friend's parents informed the school, they in turn informed the police. The lad was very lucky, in the end, not to be charged. His mother was traumatised. I don't think the boy was any sort of paedo, he did it for a laugh (very funny).

 

Of course it was poor parenting but it follows on from Suffy's point about the dangers of young boys watching porn and them expecting anal sex with their girlfriends...Its okay having porn available but their are some serious consequences...

[Bulgarian]

There also seems to be a growing trend in porn to go bareback, which can't be a good thing for the actors and doesn't really give out the safe sex message that porn was say 10 years ago.

[ElasticMan]

I've always wondered why the police can't close the dodgy sites down. They receive subscriptions through customers via credit and debit cards. Why can't the police just close the bank accounts down? It wouldn't be difficult to subscribe then track the payment, with the help of the bank. I know they'd just start again with another account, but close this down as well.

 

The police tracked people down people who posted on facebook during the riots, why not these people? Perhaps someone could explain...?

 

The vast majority of 'adult' sites are not illegal. They operate entirely within the law and in doing so make millions (billions?) each year.

 

The 'dodgy' sites, by which I expect you mean 'illegal' operate in a different way all together. They are hidden, encrypted and private - very hard to detect. Users are anonymous, payments are often hard to trace.

Efforts to bring them down often include police from different countries and end in coordinated raids and mass arrests after long investigations.

Surely if someone is involved in creating and spreading illegal images, then arrestsing and prosecuting is far better than just cancelling their payment card?

 

You mentioned how easily police found 'riot' suspects on facebook. Facebook users give all of their personal details, post updates in public, and facebook cooperates fully with the police - it couldn't be more different from a private encrypted network.

[Suffragette1]

There also seems to be a growing trend in porn to go bareback, which can't be a good thing for the actors and doesn't really give out the safe sex message that porn was say 10 years ago.

 

From the same article that I linked to in my previous post:

 

I was assured by numerous online commentators, rather too eagerly, that the sexual health of porn performers is rigorously certificated and policed. There is indeed – or was until recently – a voluntary code of practice in the LA porn industry, although condoms are compulsory on very few film sets: consumers, it seems, much prefer not to see them. Performers say that herpes is rife, and last week the industry was closed down by an HIV scare, which proved false, although a similar scare was accurate last December, when the 24-year-old bisexual porn actor Derrick Burts was informed that he had contracted HIV. Before that he had tested positive for Chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis. “I was performing with multiple partners several times a week,” he said, “STDs came with the job.”

Even more disturbing is this:

 

 

Since [Jemma] Jameson first “made it”, the trends in porn have moved towards using girls who look under-age, anal sex, and violence, frequently in combination. Jameson’s successor as the biggest female name in the adult film industry, Sasha Grey – who retired from porn earlier this year after moving into mainstream modelling and acting – asked her co-star, the Italian actor Rocco Siffredi, to punch her in the stomach during sex on her first X-rated shoot. Thereafter, her schedule was fully booked. Grey was regularly slapped, spat on and choked in her films: the only place she drew the line, she said, was at working with children or animals. But part of her appeal was that at, at 18, she could look much younger on-screen, a fact frequently reflected in her film titles and dialogue. In 2006 Grey complained to LA Magazine that directors “ask you to bring along with you the clothes of a 12-year-old.” Even Grey, it seemed, thought that was a bit much: she didn’t say, however, that she had refused to bring the clothes.

[Halibut]

From the same article that I linked to in my previous post:

 

Even more disturbing is this:

 

I don't want to spoil anyone's fun, but I wish that more people were aware of this kind of thing and actually thought about it.

[Suffragette1]

I don't want to spoil anyone's fun, but I wish that more people were aware of this kind of thing and actually thought about it.

 

So do I. The minute anyone raises concerns about pornography, you're instantly labelled as some kind of prude with sexual hang ups.

 

Here's another interesting link, which addresses some of the problems with pornography.

[myangelcarly]

im not even going to vote on this poll, im sure most of you will know my reaction to the question anyway

 

by the way... where did my thread go i read a bit of it late last night, i must say it was getting very steamy, thats proberly why it was removed

[llamatron]

clearly it depends on the porn, I have never got over the german porn I saw where the bloke was still wearing his socks and sandals! A bit of corset ye olde titilation is fab though!

 

from a female perspective!

[Suffragette1]

im not even going to vote on this poll, im sure most of you will know my reaction to the question anyway

 

by the way... where did my thread go i read a bit of it late last night, i must say it was getting very steamy, thats proberly why it was removed

 

Read the article I linked to in the post above (112). There is no doubt that porn can spice things up, however, I would argue that on balance, it has a detrimental effect on the perception of women and sexual norms.

[Frank Sidney]

The vast majority of 'adult' sites are not illegal. They operate entirely within the law and in doing so make millions (billions?) each year.

 

The 'dodgy' sites, by which I expect you mean 'illegal' operate in a different way all together. They are hidden, encrypted and private - very hard to detect. Users are anonymous, payments are often hard to trace.

Efforts to bring them down often include police from different countries and end in coordinated raids and mass arrests after long investigations.

Surely if someone is involved in creating and spreading illegal images, then arrestsing and prosecuting is far better than just cancelling their payment card?

 

You mentioned how easily police found 'riot' suspects on facebook. Facebook users give all of their personal details, post updates in public, and facebook cooperates fully with the police - it couldn't be more different from a private encrypted network.

 

I appreciate all that but to open a business account I'm sure you have to provide some I.D. so why can't the police track payments to the bank and then the account holder it wouldn't be difficult, surely?

 

I'm talking about the child porn sites which is a pretty serious crime but the police don't seem to be able to stop it. Look at the resources they're putting into cannabis farming for example, it'd be better off spent on issues like this.

 

If there were ten police officers subscribing to child porn sites with credit cards, which obviously wouldn't say Police Officer on them, then with co-operation of the card company they could trace the payment to a bank account, then the account holder. I know this is world wide but most, if not all, countries are seriously trying to stamp it out. It would just need a special agreement from police forces world wide to work together...

 

I don't understand how payments would be "difficult to trace" as you say, one bank would need the others details to make payment and I'm sure banks aren't in on this..