A poll on attitudes to pornography

[Cyclone]

Does it matter whether the pressure comes from men or women? You're sending out mixed messages to be honest, either it's a problem when people change their appearance due to external pressure or it isn't. That includes the pressure to conform created by their own sex, and that includes mothers who think cosmetically enhancing their daughters is the right thing to do!

[DaFoot]

.... What is the common denominator here? Sexual expectations of women, far more so than there are of men. ...

 

Expectations being?

I assume you mean appearance and things they may or may not do in the bedroom?

[Suffragette1]

Expectations being?

I assume you mean appearance and things they may or may not do in the bedroom?

 

Yes. If all the indicators are that porn is increasingly being used as some kind of benchmark as many young men will have been exposed to considerable amounts of porn before they are sexually active, then I think that it's a huge and worrying problem. If, as numerous reports seem to evidence, young women feel pressurised into performing/having perfomed on them certain sexual acts that they're not comfortable with, as well as looking a certain way, then we should be doing something to challenge porn culture or at the very least, educate young people. Sex is a great thing and should be enjoyed by both sexes without all these stupid pressures and false ideals. Men and women are both losing out on what should be a fantastic experience.

[Suffragette1]

To use Bill Hicks:

 

I guess a lot of women's attitudes - is that those movies are degrading to women. And I say: "Pfft, look at the guys! Are they exalted? I couldn't make a face like that if a car ran over my foot. She looks great. He looks like a doofus!"

 

 

Indeed, men are losing out too. But they can fight their own battles, I'm championing women.

[Suffragette1]

Thats what I was trying to say, fairly badly probably

 

Actually I get what you are saying Conrad and Cyclone and yes perhaps you do have a point but it seems to me that there is a lot less peer pressure to have an ear piercing etc than there is to appear like an off duty porn star.

 

I find it a bit worrying that a so called professional's negative comments about women's genitalia appear on a public forum. It just fuels the elective c-section brigade and adds yet another layer of stress and worry that young pregnant women have to contend with. Will it hurt? Will I tear? And is the midwife laughing at my bits?

[Suffragette1]

Does it matter whether the pressure comes from men or women? You're sending out mixed messages to be honest, either it's a problem when people change their appearance due to external pressure or it isn't. That includes the pressure to conform created by their own sex, and that includes mothers who think cosmetically enhancing their daughters is the right thing to do!

 

Who's this aimed at? Most people are dressing (and by this I include having jewellery and ear/body piercings) to either conform and blend in (ie belong, identify with a group) or stand out and make a statement. That's a generalisation I know but I would apply this to that which is on show to the general public and can be seen without getting into intimate situations with others. As I have stated, there is a world of difference, in my view, between enhancing and adorning oneself which people have done since the dawn of time, and undergoing the knife (ie labiaplasty) unless one has labia like Dumbo's ears (which would be abnormally large) there is absolutely no reason for it other than a new craze and fad inspired by porn, a look which was purely created to maximise the penetrative sex act shot. I am 100% with Caitlin Moran on this issue, read her book, How to be a Woman.

[love_rat]

A recent study was carried out by a leading university about porn.

 

 

Strip joints

This part of the study wanted to find out who worked in the strip clubs, why they worked in the strip clubs and who the clients were. The study needed to find out about the clients, their lifestyle and what they were hoping to see, or why they were going

 

 

The findings

After a 6 month study, the following was the outcome.

 

The workers were female, and there reasons for doing this was motivated by financial reasons. Many were lone parents, or young women funding their studying and viewed this to be an easy means of accumulating money.

 

The clients - were often lonely middle aged me. Why did they go and what they hoped to see was also quite suprising. Many of the men lacked female companionship and so often went to an area where there were ladsy around who gave them attention.

 

The men - what were they hoping to see? mainly boobs and bottoms. May men were not actually interested in who the girl was, what her background was or indeed her reasons for doing the stripping as a job. Many men just wasnted to see naked female flesh.

[Conrod]

Indeed, men are losing out too. But they can fight their own battles, I'm championing women.

Which could be read as: some things affect people in general, male or female, but if you focus on just one side it becomes a feminist issue.

 

[Suffragette1]

Which could be read as: some things affect people in general, male or female, but if you focus on just one side it becomes a feminist issue.

 

 

It would read like that if you wanted to belittle the detrimental effect that this has on women and were anti-feminist. It doesn't even affect my generation so much but it does the current one and my children's one. I want them to enjoy a life unencumbered by this type of nonsense and latent misogyny.

[Conrod]

A recent study was carried out by a leading university about porn.

 

 

Strip joints

This part of the study wanted to find out who worked in the strip clubs, why they worked in the strip clubs and who the clients were. The study needed to find out about the clients, their lifestyle and what they were hoping to see, or why they were going

 

 

The findings

After a 6 month study, the following was the outcome.

 

The workers were female, and there reasons for doing this was motivated by financial reasons. Many were lone parents, or young women funding their studying and viewed this to be an easy means of accumulating money.

 

The clients - were often lonely middle aged me. Why did they go and what they hoped to see was also quite suprising. Many of the men lacked female companionship and so often went to an area where there were ladsy around who gave them attention.

 

The men - what were they hoping to see? mainly boobs and bottoms. May men were not actually interested in who the girl was, what her background was or indeed her reasons for doing the stripping as a job. Many men just wasnted to see naked female flesh.

I remember going into a lovely backwater strip joint in the central US and seeing a sweet old-ish couple enjoying a drink there. The dutiful wife, bless her and all real women like her, even went to the bar every time to save her husband from missing the dancers. What a girl.