Movehut Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 We recently produced a blog on this topic, and we found that 'many businesses are choosing to ‘wait and see’ what happens in the economy, before hiring more staff.' What are your views about that approach? To read the full article, please click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad.Malky Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Surly if our young people had been motivated and educated to the standards business requires we would have less unemployment and fewer people in the country. Do you honestly believe that? There may be a small ……… very small minority of the immigrants coming for skilled jobs the rest are filling the none skilled low paid jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 In the league of manufacturing output, UK comes 6th, so we do make some things. But as manufacturing becomes more automated, and as work opportunities are outsourced to other nations, we have to bite the bullit and realise that full employment is a thing of the past, and find ways to deal with it. My suggestion would be sharing out the work so everyone works part time. Initially it would create more problems than it solves, but there must be a way of working it out. problems like people being unable to pay mortgages and getting repossssed for example. There's no way I could afford to work part time, and I am sure its true of many other people too. So I cannot see how this would work, unless its part time for the same money - but then the cost of everything would surge causing enormous problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Do you honestly believe that? There may be a small ……… very small minority of the immigrants coming for skilled jobs the rest are filling the none skilled low paid jobs. No, you wouldn't get a work permit for a none skilled job, except for agricultural schemes (fruit picking). Most of the migrants you see working in a supermarket, for example, will be work part-time while studying or it's probable that they're are working in the family business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad.Malky Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 No, you wouldn't get a work permit for a none skilled job, except for agricultural schemes (fruit picking). Most of the migrants you see working in a supermarket, for example, will be work part-time while studying or it's probable that they're are working in the family business. Aren’t the vast majority from the EU and don’t need a permit, When talking about immigration we have to be more specific about where they came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladesufc1 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 The joys of the recession eh. A million! It's breached the psychological benchmark. This is like the FTSE dropping below 5000. Somebody phone 999 and request government assistance ASAP. your title is WRONG highest youth unemployment EVER! that's not quite right, records only started in 1992 for the youth your thread shoud read highest youth unemployment since records began there's plenty of jobs out there, its pays more to be on the dole, FACT, END OF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Newsnight. Once again spokesmen for the parties are arguing. They don't get it. Youth unemployment rised markedly under Labour since 2004. It's accelerating under the Coalition. They're all responsible for the mess. They need to work together and agree how to tackle this issue. I would: 1. Make it illegal for foreign nationals coming over on intra company transfer (ICT) visas to take roles that would otherwise be marketed to grads and modern apprentices. 2. For youngsters unemployed to be offered genuine waged training places. In significant numbers. Employers that can demonstrate genuine training opportunites (e.g. by allowing for day release) can be exempted from minimum wage at a floor of say £75/week (more than JSA). 3. Genuine support for business startup. How much wasted talent is out there just needing that little spark? Anybody else got any ideas instead of arguing? 1) But the purpose of ICTs are to employ foreign nationals in the UK working for their oversea's parent companies. 2) Employ them doing what? There are few jobs out there and even less that require significant training. 3) If you were Tescos for example, would you want hundreads of little shops springing up around your businesses? Get the drift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Do you honestly believe that? There may be a small ……… very small minority of the immigrants coming for skilled jobs the rest are filling the none skilled low paid jobs. I did include motivated to work and not just educated, anyone will do any job with the right motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickiethecat Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Sane isn't the right word is it? I acknowledge that we have a significant number of illegal immigrants, so what are you claiming is the link between this and youth unemployment? Let's see what the experts are saying. "Sir Andrew Green, of the Migrationwatch think-tank, described the figures as ‘stunning’. He said: ‘The immigration lobby can no longer pretend that these massive levels of immigration have no significant effect on the job prospects for British workers who are now unemployed.’ The crisis facing British-born workers comes after business leaders and lobby groups have warned they prefer foreign workers. The British Chambers of Commerce said many school leavers and graduates with ‘fairly useless’ degrees are unemployable because they lack basic skills. Dr Adam Marshall, director of policy at the British Chambers of Commerce, said the fault does not lie with the young person, but their education. ‘There may be a course in underwater basket weaving, but that does not mean anybody will actually want to employ you at the end of it,’ he said. A report from the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development, meanwhile, said bosses preferred foreign workers because they had a more ‘positive’ attitude. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062477/UK-youth-unemployment-hits-1m-foreign-workers-UK-jobs.html#ixzz1dyBW8a6D Are you just doing your usual trolling or do you seriously believe there's no link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 1) But the purpose of ICTs are to employ foreign nationals in the UK working for their oversea's parent companies. 2) Employ them doing what? There are few jobs out there and even less that require significant training. 3) If you were Tescos for example, would you want hundreads of little shops springing up around your businesses? Get the drift? 1. ICT visas are seriously abused. At my last company from a position of taking on hundreds of grads and modern apprentices a year. This was reducing to a trickle and replaced with ICT migrants. This was just one company choking off thousands of training places to make short term profit. 2. I would suggest training places on the massive infrastructure projects we need to get out this mess. Just for a start. 3. The government needs to prove that it is pro-SME as well as supporting big business. It's too far up the backsides of the corporates. That needs to be challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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