Frank Sidney Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 The point that is often missed is that if there is such a scheme whereby people have to work for benefits those in employment will suffer greatly. Especially the low paid. Its like turkeys voting for Christmas anyone supporting such a scheme... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I agree somewhat, but the Torys wouldn't be able to resist humiliating folk doing such duties. We are in recession, it WILL get worse. LET THE OVER 60's retire early, stop making people who are ill or disabled work. Give the jobs to the young who are trying to support families............Simples..... Simple apart from having to pay the pension to those early retired people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Let's say we have the unemployed digging ditches, tidying gardens etc. What if their offspring aren't of school age yet ? Do we leave them in a minibus withe the windows cracked open ? Attached to the mothers back whilst they tend the fields? What happens to them if their parents get real jobs? The situation should be the same. Obviously once of school age and it's summer holiday time we can send them up chimneys but prior to that all we are doing then is providing alot of nurseries more, no doubt subsidised be me and other taxpayers (again !) work. Don't know what the answers are but not sure it's this. Oh and 9 top bishops don't think capping benefits at £500 per week works either. They probably believe in god as well, so their judgement is in question somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 The point that is often missed is that if there is such a scheme whereby people have to work for benefits those in employment will suffer greatly. Especially the low paid. Its like turkeys voting for Christmas anyone supporting such a scheme... Not if they do work that just isn't being done at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Not if they do work that just isn't being done at the moment. No not really...The low paid will have even more fears about becoming unemployed...Employers will take advantage of this by offering worse terms and pay.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 They'd fear becoming unemployed more because if they're unemployed they still have to work... I'm not sure I follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 They'd fear becoming unemployed more because if they're unemployed they still have to work... I'm not sure I follow. Yes but they'd have to work for nowt...Why don't you just admit you'd never thought of this and stop playing games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 They'd have to work for their benefits, not for nothing. But so long as they'd only ever have to work for the government doing jobs that can't otherwise be afforded then the threat you mention doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upinwath Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Sorry about taking a while to reply. That bit about 50 people going after a crap job. 2.6 odd million unemployed and only 50 people after a job suggests their are a lot of people out there as fussy as they are workshy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 There are 2.6 million people unemployed spread over the entire country, I doubt that the unemployed in London will be applying for a shelf stacking job in Glasgow or Sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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