nightrider Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Israel has now made about 5 or 6 calls in the last few months for peace talks with the 'palestinians'. They have refused each time. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-ready-to-launch-peace-talks-with-palestinians-tomorrow-un-envoy-says-1.385557 http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/peres-to-palestinians-peace-will-be-achieved-through-talks-not-un-1.394612 Even the quartet have been snubbed by the 'palestinians'. This is quite telling. The King of Jordan visiting Judea & Samaria (west bank) for the first time in years to call on the 'palestinians' to engage in peace. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/jordan-calls-on-abbas-to-renew-peace-talks-with-israel-1.396814 The 'palestinians' keep refusing. [/b] So if they won't agree to peace talks, what are they playing at exactly? Last I heard they will agree - but only if Israel agrees to stop illegally building settlements (which they are refusing to do currently). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Why did you write Palestinians with inverted commas and without capitalisation? The text that you copy/pasted didn't. Oh, I know why you did it. It is a thinly veiled attempt to play down the legitimacy and deny the rights of the people who do identify as Palestinian. Interesting that your quoted Israeli news source didn't do that. Yet here you are, posing your opinion as a question when your mind is clearly already made up. You have no intention to discuss anything, it's merely a rant. Absolutely correct, VideoPro - if the OP really wanted to know why the Palestinians are not coming to the table he would need to look at things from their point of view. This is quite clearly beyond his abilities - and those of many others who post about these issues. As you said yourself, both sides have legitimate complaints, aspirations and grievances and both sides will need to accept compromises if peace is to be achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertramp Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Last I heard they will agree - but only if Israel agrees to stop illegally building settlements (which they are refusing to do currently). Stop derailing the thread!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Dome Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Here's a theory B2 Spirit Ian Dome Jeffrey Shaw Are the same user....You decide You got me/us. Except we are not a user, we are a zionist posting program called Shmuxnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2 Spirit Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Last I heard they will agree - but only if Israel agrees to stop illegally building settlements (which they are refusing to do currently). The quartet wanted both parties to come to the peace table without preconditions. Whilst Israel agreed, the 'palestinians' for some reason thought they could set all sorts of demands before they will even agree to peace. It would be very easy for Israel to do likewise and say "halt all terrorism before peace talks" - which of course the 'palestinians' seem incapable of doing. I remember a senior Israeli diplomat saying that during the Oslo accords that they were negotiating with the 'palestinians' during the day, and burying dead Israelis during the evening. So the Israelis are prepared to make these sacrifices, the 'palestinians' seem more keen on playing games at the UN which the international community is fast losing patience with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 'palestine' has never existed as a state or country. 'palestinians' as a people were invented in 1967 as a political weapon against Israel. Really? Its not what my history book says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2 Spirit Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Really? Its not what my history book says. Yeah? find me a 'palestinian' country in your history book (assuming the author isn't a Hamas official) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Yeah? find me a 'palestinian' country in your history book (assuming the author isn't a Hamas official) I suppose the League of Nations are in the great conspiracy too then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2 Spirit Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 I suppose the League of Nations are in the great conspiracy too then? Find me a 'palestinian' country or a state governed by the 'palestinians' - otherwise stop embarrassing yourself and wasting everyone's time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 The only solution I see is two states with free movement between the two, Palestinians? Being allowed to live and work in Israel and Israelis being allowed to live and work in the Palestinian state. A little like England and Scotland but with our own governments, we hate each other but get on for the sake of piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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