Vague_Boy Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Should be the opening level response to demonstrators. Yep, especially those just sitting there peacefully. The right to protest was abolished in Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany. Interesting choice of role models you have there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 people legitemately exercising their democratic right to PEACEFUL protestOn private property, reportedly for 2 weeks. And therein lies the casus belli. I highly doubt they'd have been pepper-sprayed if they were on public property. Though in that case, on the evidence (ho-hum) of so many US cop reality shows, they may well have been shot (first) instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 On private property, reportedly for 2 weeks. And therein lies the casus belli. I highly doubt they'd have been pepper-sprayed if they were on public property. Though in that case, on the evidence (ho-hum) of so many US cop reality shows, they may well have been shot (first) instead does it matter? it was still a protest..............PEACEFULLY pepper spraying for nothing is assault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Dome Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 or assault against people legitemately exercising their democratic right to PEACEFUL protest theyre sitting down fgs NOT rioting please take a look before you decide; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 does it matter?Under the US legal system, you betcha. After that, of course, it's always going to be a matter of both personal attitude and stakeholder factors. Owning the place, you might not mind the protest. Or you may have no choice because the protest is killing your business on the place. Or... And if you just run the place, and still don't mind the protest, but the land/business owner wants them off yesterday, you do what must...or suffer the consequences (e.g. lose job, face breach of employment contract at Court, etc, etc.). Skin that cat any number of ways, depending on however many factors are relevant. The one constant (and very basic) principle is - protesting peacefully is fine, just don't do it on someone's personal patch. Simples (and equitable) enough, I'd have thought? Pepper spray is small beer anyway (try proper CS for a larf...not), less of a potential liability (and less painful) than forcibly removing (manhandling) the protesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Chaos Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Was the protest about police brutallity.From the title i thought they had used a dirty bomb or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Dome Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 http://llwproductions.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/lt-pike-and-the-von-trapp-family.jpg?w=630&h=619 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 please take a look before you decide; first off, in the first 2 minutes 1: the faculty have had threats well then the poilce track down the ones doing the threats, not pepper spray those sitting down peafefully. 2: they were warned they would be pepper sprayed and? its still assault, its like saying im going to smash your face in, its still assault even if i warned you first. 5 minutes in "allowing" the police to go is that before or after the pepper spraying? to me it seems after, course people are gonna be angry after innocent demonstrators being assaulted for no reason 6 minutes in 1: i believe the police are trapped in a do or dont scenario but i believe theres OTHER avenues of removing them 2: the commentator mentions a lone cop im not sure he did it alone? surely it would have been from orders above? all in all that video does nothing to change my views, its assault pure and simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 They were obstructing people on private property - breaking the law - so they received appropriate treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 They were obstructing people on private property - breaking the law - so they received appropriate treatment. so why not lift them up and carry them off? thats what they do here or get a court order to remove them? theres a few things that can be done BEFORE pepper spraying unarmed people sitting down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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