chem1st Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 The average public sector pension is below £7k. The means tested benefit known as pension credit is just above £7k. Why strike for a pension when one who claims it, will still need to claim means tested pension benefits. Might aswell have a pension pot of £0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 If the amount is pointless, what does it matter to pay it? If the strike is ineffective, you won't mind people striking then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 If the amount is pointless, what does it matter to pay it? If the strike is ineffective, you won't mind people striking then. I took on a job in the public sector a year or so back, could have stayed working in it, but it wasn't for me. The pay was rubbish and the pension nonsensical. That's not to say pay in the private sector isn't also rubbish and paying into a pension is nonsensical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 If the strike is ineffective, you won't mind people striking then. It's not ineffective in its purpose of disrupting the lives of huge numbers of people. It's just hopelessly ineffective as an attempt to secure a better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 The work pension will be added to a state pension, as well as to any other income, and may well be above the pension credit minimum. So if somone has - on today's figures - a work pension of about £140 a week (your figures) plus a state pension of about £100 a week that's £240 a week, a lot more than the pension credit minimum guarantee of £137 for a single person. Plus there's SERPS and other non-Pension Credit top-ups. PC is a minimum income guarantee. There's no reason anyone should settle for that after working for 40-odd years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 It's not ineffective in its purpose of disrupting the lives of huge numbers of people. It's just hopelessly ineffective as an attempt to secure a better deal. Wrong, they are not hoping for a better deal, they hope to retain the one they have signed a contract for. What's the point of striking if it didn't cause inconvenience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 The work pension will be added to a state pension, as well as to any other income, and may well be above the pension credit minimum. So if somone has - on today's figures - a work pension of about £140 a week (your figures) plus a state pension of about £100 a week that's £240 a week, a lot more than the pension credit minimum guarantee of £137 for a single person. Plus there's SERPS and other non-Pension Credit top-ups. PC is a minimum income guarantee. There's no reason anyone should settle for that after working for 40-odd years. People get less than that working if you account for the loss in HB etc. Would public sector workers get state pension regardless? Even then I don't think thy get a good deal, they must forego salary in the present. And they'd lose out on HB/SMI/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Plus if you rent there's no point having a pension. You'll not be able to claim HB in many circumstances.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 The average public sector pension is below £7k. The means tested benefit known as pension credit is just above £7k. Why strike for a pension when one who claims it, will still need to claim means tested pension benefits. Might aswell have a pension pot of £0. Many people will have pensions form other sources putting them over the £7k limit and some will have income from various holdings,plus a state pension.My brother will have £8,000 teachers pension,£9,000 from the military,£12,000 from lettings plus £7,000 from PO making £36,000.Now you can see why he wants to strike to secure fair play.If successful he can look forward to giving up his pizza delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan_Vesta Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 How dare I expect the Government to honour the terms and conditions of my employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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