Frank Sidney Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I'd agree with the various types of rape being possible. The only one I have a problem with is the female forcing the man to penetrate her with an erect penis...There is a good point about emotional black mail that I'd never considered... I am wavering somewhat, so won't disagree further, but will research.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy Jnr Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Thanks Skinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 That is total and utter nonsense. Absolute and utter tripe. You speak from a position of authority as a rape councillor, medical professional or something similar I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I'd agree with the various types of rape being possible. The only one I have a problem with is the female forcing the man to penetrate her with an erect penis...There is a good point about emotional black mail that I'd never considered... I am wavering somewhat, so won't disagree further, but will research.... She doesn't have to force him to penetrate her, she can take the lead and be the one on top, as it were and as stated above, 'freezing' is a common reaction. Many men probably don't even identify it as rape for the very same reasons that a few on here refuse to believe that it's even possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 That is total and utter nonsense. Absolute and utter tripe. No, it isn't. You are ill-informed. Try reading the information linked to by MurphyJnr at post 43 and expanded on by Skinz at post 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Does the same apply to women who are raped..I don't know.. Sexual arousal during female rape is an automatic mechanism, mainly to avoid any damage being caused by penetration. It isn't the same as "sexual arousal" in the context that being raped isn't a pleasure, but the body responds the same way. Rape and Sexual Arousal: Aphrodite Matsakis writes about sexual arousal or orgasm in rape: "Before you chastise yourself for one more minute, remember that your sexual organs do not have a brain. They cannot distinguish between a mauling rapist and the gentle touch of a lover. They simply react to stimulation the way they were physically designed to respond. If you climaxed or had some other sexual response to the rape, this does not mean that you enjoyed it." (1992, p.73) In response to other bits of this thread, rape is about consent. A man may be aroused, and even possibly attracted, but in saying "no" then any further act is rape. It's not a complex idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I reckon, after deliberating, that men can be raped by women in certain situations. As mentioned earlier in relation to emotional blackmail and as Chris and Suffregette1 mention above. However, I was, initially, talking about a situation where the woman, a stranger, the attacker, hides and then leaps out and attacks the man, violently, and then makes him have sex. Without some magic substance, I don't think this type of woman on man rape is possible. But, of course, its quite possible when the roles are reversed. That is the point I was trying to (badly) make. Another point is that if 3 women in Africa, or anywhere else for that matter, need to collect sperm for whatever reason. They'd only have to ask, and quite quickly a queue would form, it'd be a lot less trouble than kidnapping random blokes and they'd get gallons of the stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I was under the impression that the sexual assault on a man is only classed as rape if he is penetrated. I would say the man in question was sexually assaulted and not raped. Just a thought, these women that sexually assaulted the man, suppose they had forced him to have sex with another women against her will, would he have raped her because he had intercourse against her will or are they both be classed as sexually assaulted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy Jnr Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Would the male still get the release (albeit without the pleasure) that he would if it was consensual sex? This finale has a lot more to do with enjoyment than simply performing the actions doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 This finale has a lot more to do with enjoyment than simply performing the actions doesn't it? Are you implying that an orgasm proves consent? Would you equally use that point if a woman said she had been raped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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