chorba Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I suppose the ruckus about the film "The Last Temptation Of Christ" being considered as highly offensive to Christians The idiotic christians worked themselves up into such a frenzy over LoB too. Quick to lose the plot are these fundies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrSmith Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Absolutely. You can make up loads of things. You are saying: the universe didn't need a cause but it exists. But in this same universe the logical rule "everything has a cause" applies to everything. So in this universe everything has a cause except "how this universe came to existence", you are saying we don't need a cause for that because "it just is". You can see how you are saying exactly what believers say: "god just is the creator, there is no reason for it, he just is". No it doesn't When did a human ever create matter, we can't create it or destroy it all we can do is change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Agbus Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Go and watch tv why don't you everything about that needed a creator as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Things are getting more complicated now. One would have to define exactly and precisely the word "universe". Everything that exists is the common definition, there is no definition for GOD that anyone can agree on because God is different to everyone and is a creation of the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Hi Grahame! Great to hear from you again. The infamous Graham? Yes, Grahame, yourself, as large as life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Sccsux the bully. Or, the asker of unanswered, uncomfortable questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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