flamingjimmy Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 No, that's not the issue at all. Any legal system, and any religion's own rules, needs benchmarking objectively. That's impossible because there is no objective basis for morality. Good morality is based on reason, and discussion. The noachide laws are outdated, and useless as a guide or benchmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I agree that there's no objective basis for morality; that's precisely why 'morality' fails as a basis for anything. The Germans were a highly 'moral' nation but, by redefining who counts as a human being, they- well, you know the rest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 back on topic please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RootsBooster Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Jeffrey Shaw: "No, that's not the issue at all. Any legal system, and any religion's own rules, needs benchmarking objectively. That's the Seven Laws, in a nutshell." In this nutshell then, what do the Idolatry and Blasphemy rules have to do with the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 what kind of a pathetic moral code would leave out prohibiting slavery? One that encourages its existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Jeffrey Shaw: "No, that's not the issue at all. Any legal system, and any religion's own rules, needs benchmarking objectively. That's the Seven Laws, in a nutshell." In this nutshell then, what do the Idolatry and Blasphemy rules have to do with the law? A great deal, to your great surprise. Idolatry is not limited to graven images. Don't a lot of people (too many) worship money/power/fame nowadays? Blasphemy is not limited to religion. Don't a lot of people (too many) swear offensively in public nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 A great deal, to your great surprise. Idolatry is not limited to graven images. Don't a lot of people (too many) worship money/power/fame nowadays? Blasphemy is not limited to religion. Don't a lot of people (too many) swear offensively in public nowadays? Swearing != Blasphemy. Blasphemy belongs purely with religious doctrine. blasphemy n noun (plural blasphemies) profane or sacrilegious talk about God or sacred things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 A great deal, to your great surprise. Idolatry is not limited to graven images. Don't a lot of people (too many) worship money/power/fame nowadays? Blasphemy is not limited to religion. Don't a lot of people (too many) swear offensively in public nowadays? So like I said, what have these to do with the law? Is it now illegal for people to idolise things? Also, I think you'll find that blasphemy IS exclusive to religions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Also, I think you'll find that blasphemy IS exclusive to religions. Though it is (thankfully) no longer enshrined in law . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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