Ian Dome Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 can't back up your statements, why make them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSiSi Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Withdraw to the 1967 borders and stop murdering civilians. Allow freedom of movement in and out of Gaza, get out of the west bank and stop being idiots. Not that it'll matter in the next few years anyway. The US has armed Egypt and a very anti Israeli government is about to come to power. I can see the Egypt/Gaza border being opened in short order. There's also the potential for a combined Arab countries attack on Israel because of that probable shift in the balance of power. The US needs oil and I can see that grate nation being forced to pressure Israel into accepting change to avoid a war. No - I didn't mean "Great". Remind me, why did Israel cross the 1967 borders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuy Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Yes. CXC3000 is nothing if not obsessively predictable when it comes to Israel. Even if Israel's government was all nice and fluffy, Israel's very existence would still be unacceptable for the likes of CXC3000 and the non-Muslim left wing; the 20-odd Arabs states nearby just don't want a Jewish state in the region full stop, and even though Israel is democratic and tolerant, (two things its Arab neighbours aren't) the non-Muslim left are against what to them is a transplanted European colonial power, backed by the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callippo Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I think you'll find the rockets are fired into illegally occupied land (UN resolutions a plenty supporting this), not Israel. so Sderot and Ashkelon (the towns where most of the Gaza rockets are fired at) is 'illegally ocupied land' is it? I don't suppose you'd care to name these 'UN resolutions a plenty' that say this? The UN says Israel is an occupying force on Palestinian land and has a large number of resolutions against Israel for crimes of occupation. notice how they never name any of them. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, after which the number of rockets fired on Israel from Gaza INcreased, dramatically. Withdraw to the 1967 borders. it wasn't a border and the Arabs never recognised it as being any border as they didn't recognise Israel itself. All it was is the 1949 Armistice line. Final status borders are to be established as part of a future peace deal as laid out in UNSCR 242, one of the very same resolutions people like you use to claim - falsely - that Israel is illegally 'occupying' land when it is not. No - The yanks block that but the fact Israel illegally occupies vast chunks of Arab land is seen as a breaking of international law. see above. Again, notice how they never name these so-called 'international' laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upinwath Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel" 1955-1992: * Resolution 106: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid". * Resolution 111: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people". * Resolution 127: " . . . 'recommends' Israel suspends it's 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem". * Resolution 162: " . . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions". * Resolution 171: " . . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria". Resolution 228: " . . . 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control". * Resolution 237: " . . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees". Resolution 248: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan". * Resolution 250: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem". * Resolution 251: " . . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250". * Resolution 252: " . . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital". * Resolution 256: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation". * Resolution 259: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation". * Resolution 262: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport". * Resolution 265: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan". * Resolution 267: " . . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem". * Resolution 270: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon". * Resolution 271: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem". * Resolution 279: " . . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon". * Resolution 280: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon". * Resolution 285: " . . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon". * Resolution 298: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem". * Resolution 313: " . . . 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon". * Resolution 316: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon". * Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon". * Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon". * Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty". * Resolution 347: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon". * Resolution 425: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon". * Resolution 427: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon. * Resolution 444: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces". * Resolution 446: " . . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention". * Resolution 450: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon". * Resolution 452: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories". * Resolution 465: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel's settlements program". * Resolution 467: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon". * Resolution 468: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return". * Resolution 469: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians". * Resolution 471: " . . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention". * Resolution 476: " . . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'". * Resolution 478: " . . . 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'". * Resolution 484: " . . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re- admit two deported Palestinian mayors". * Resolution 487: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility". * Resolution 497: " . . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith". * Resolution 498: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon". * Resolution 501: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops". * Resolution 509: " . . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon". * Resolution 515: " . . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in". * Resolution 517: " . . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon". * Resolution 518: " . . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon". * Resolution 520: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut". * Resolution 573: " . . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters. * Resolution 587: " . . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw". * Resolution 592: " . . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops". * Resolution 605: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians. * Resolution 607: " . . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention. * Resolution 608: " . . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians". * Resolution 636: " . . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians. * Resolution 641: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians. * Resolution 672: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount. * Resolution 673: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations. Resolution 681: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians. * Resolution 694: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return. * Resolution 726: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians. * Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for there immediate return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chorba Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 So Palestinians who choose to terrorise Israel with rockets launched from their homes - once they receive the IDF payback, they can then sue?! LOL. They need to face up to it, they're at war. They voted Hamas, Hamas are sworn to Israels destruction, it can be argued the whole of Gaza is committed to war with Israel. Get what they deserve. The terrorists are on the zionist side and certainly not on the palestinian's. We all know who are the victims: those who live under the last colonial system in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chorba Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Just because his reasoning doesn't fit your reasoning, what would you like israel to do? What would you do if you were in Israel's shoes? Some have a conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Dome Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 The terrorists are on the zionist side and certainly not on the palestinian's. We all know who are the victims: those who live under the last colonial system in the world. Of course of course. "We all" meaning yourself, and known racist, CXC3000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Dome Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 He'll come back in this thread now he thinks he has friends to pat on the back and say "I agree" whilst conveniently ignoring the posts i'm waiting for him to respond to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel" 1955-1992:.. Thanks for the list. So now we can see just how biased the so-called 'United' Nations are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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