Falkland Islands Tension increase

[MrSmith]

Our soldiers are like walking armies in thier own right the amount of firepower they can bring to bare. The RAF are amonst the best pilots in the world and currently have the best fighter in the world.

We also have some of the most advanced subs that are most likely already there watching the Argies get red faced a puffy chested.

 

Add to that the fact that they didn’t sneak up on us last time, we knew it was going to happen, the governor of the islands was warned several days before the Argentinean invasion took place, we just could do anything to assist them from the UK, this time we can. The bottom line is that it will be easier and cheaper to defend the Falkland’s than take them back again.

[MrSmith]

Let's be serious about this.

 

Aside from the resident infantry company down there, the majority of the Mount Pleasant personnell are technical and administrative specialists not in formed fighting units. They have allocated weapons that can be issued, but they are not equipped to go out into a battelfield. Last ditch defence of the base is all they could be used for and, like it or not, many of the RAF and RN ground personnel have bugger all training or experience in fighting. Don't forget MPA is an airbase, with mostly RAF personnel.

 

I'm not saying that the Argentinians could get past the RN at sea or make a successful attack by air, but the islands are hardly teeming with steely-eyed British killers.

 

We had plenty of training, we were better shots and generally more inelegant hence the reason we could do both jobs equally well.

[dandare]

Let's be serious about this.

 

Aside from the resident infantry company down there, the majority of the Mount Pleasant personnell are technical and administrative specialists not in formed fighting units. They have allocated weapons that can be issued, but they are not equipped to go out into a battelfield. Last ditch defence of the base is all they could be used for and, like it or not, many of the RAF and RN ground personnel have bugger all training or experience in fighting. Don't forget MPA is an airbase, with mostly RAF personnel.

 

I'm not saying that the Argentinians could get past the RN at sea or make a successful attack by air, but the islands are hardly teeming with steely-eyed British killers.

 

last time we had no ammo and still won.

[Shogun]

Let's be serious about this.

 

Aside from the resident infantry company down there, the majority of the Mount Pleasant personnell are technical and administrative specialists not in formed fighting units. They have allocated weapons that can be issued, but they are not equipped to go out into a battelfield. Last ditch defence of the base is all they could be used for and, like it or not, many of the RAF and RN ground personnel have bugger all training or experience in fighting. Don't forget MPA is an airbase, with mostly RAF personnel.

 

I'm not saying that the Argentinians could get past the RN at sea or make a successful attack by air, but the islands are hardly teeming with steely-eyed British killers.

All army personnel are trained in basic military skills and you have to practice them regularly, you are a soldier first and last before any trade, I was in the engineers and my trade was as a plant op and driver but I was months and months trained as a basic infantrymen before I went to my trade,

no one is sent to the Falklands unless they have been fully trained not now any way mite have been in the past its a live base now.

[Conrod]

We had plenty of training, we were better shots and generally more inelegant hence the reason we could do both jobs equally well.

You may have been able to shoot - many people in technical trades do so very well - but that's not the same as having infantry skills and experience operating at squad or company level in field combat.

 

That's why the Marines train year-round to be Marines, while the technical trades are mending things.

[Balpin]

words of a coward.

 

here are some better words

 

 

remember where you are man.

 

Be careful

You may retract and I will take the matter no further.

[Conrod]

All army personnel are trained in basic military skills and you have to practice them regularly, you are a soldier first and last before any trade, I was in the engineers and my trade was as a plant op and driver but I was months and months trained as a basic infantrymen before I went to my trade,

no one is sent to the Falklands unless they have been fully trained not now any way mite have been in the past its a live base now.

What's a 'live' base?

 

As you say, all soldiers do their basic infantry training. I know that, and we both also know that a bunch of REME electricians working in a bay fixing radios aren't the same in terms of their field effectiveness as a honed infantry unit that is formed up and equipped as such. Denying that would be silly - you could hand them a rifle and put a bergen on their backs, and while they'll still be better soldiers than most nations can put forward they will not have the combat effectiveness of soldiers from a pure teeth regiment.

 

You also overlooked what I said about the people down there - it's an airbase, so most of the people at MPA are RAF personnel. For non-RAF Regiment personnel, their annual ground defence training doesn't even include live firing - just a few rounds down the SAT on a simulated rifle.

 

In recent years their pre-deployment training has become more realistic than the gesture it used to be, but it still has its limits. They have some elementary training, but they're not soldiers by a long, long way.

[Conrod]

last time we had no ammo and still won.

If we had 'no ammo' we would not have won. We had limited ammo and nearly ran out. There's a difference.

[MrSmith]

You may have been able to shoot - many people in technical trades do so very well - but that's not the same as having infantry skills and experience operating at squad or company level in field combat.

 

That's why the Marines train year-round to be Marines, while the technical trades are mending things.

 

I see your point but all they will be expected to do is lay in their dug out and shoot the attacking forces, it will be all about holding the base until reinforcements arrive it much easier to defend than attack.

[Balpin]

If we had 'no ammo' we would not have won. We had limited ammo and nearly ran out. There's a difference.

 

Does any one care about about a tupny hapenny place like that anyway?