WeX Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 And Nicaragua Cuba and Grenada are in between. It didn't seem to stop their unwanted intervention in those places. Sorry but who do you mean by "their"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The island as over 3000 residents, what should happen to them? Welll, I suppose you could always resurrect 'Crossroads' and cast 3000 'Bennys':hihi::hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 so you can count almost every small island we own, including the shetlands, western isles, isle of white, isle of man, jersey? all of which's only difference is their position on the map and the number of people who live on them. I agree with you on Afghanistan, but that's an entirely different issue. We didn't invade another country. The Falklands are ours and those who live their are British Citizens. Hey! - Get your thieving bloody hands off! Neither England nor the United Kingdom has ever owned Jersey - or any of the other Channel Islands. What sort of history did they teach where you went to school? In 1066, William, Duke of Normandy (AKA 'Bill the B**tard - but probably not to his face ) conquered England (to sort out Harold Oathbreaker.) The Channel Islands were a part of his Duchy. In those times, it was Kings and Dukes who owned lands. - One land didn't own another. Times have changed. We now tend to talk about a country's 'possessions' If you want to use that reasoning, then given that the Channel Islands are the only remaining territory of the lands which originally were known as 'Normandy' then neither Jersey nor the other Islands belong to the UK - You belong to us. "England is the oldest colony of the Channel Islands." :hihi: (Actually, it isn't quite that simple. The Channel Islands are still the personal possessions of the Duke of Normandy. The Duke of Normandy is my liege lord. His name is Elizabeth.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 What I don't get is how can a couple of islands 8000 miles away be 'ours' and not be part of a mainland just 300 miles away! A bit like Argentina when Spain and the Catholic church moved in. [and as in most of south America are still there]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balpin Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hey! - Get your thieving bloody hands off! Neither England nor the United Kingdom has ever owned Jersey - or any of the other Channel Islands. What sort of history did they teach where you went to school? In 1066, William, Duke of Normandy (AKA 'Bill the B**tard - but probably not to his face ) conquered England (to sort out Harold Oathbreaker.) The Channel Islands were a part of his Duchy. In those times, it was Kings and Dukes who owned lands. - One land didn't own another. Times have changed. We now tend to talk about a country's 'possessions' If you want to use that reasoning, then given that the Channel Islands are the only remaining territory of the lands which originally were known as 'Normandy' then neither Jersey nor the other Islands belong to the UK - You belong to us. "England is the oldest colony of the Channel Islands." :hihi: (Actually, it isn't quite that simple. The Channel Islands are still the personal possessions of the Duke of Normandy. The Duke of Normandy is my liege lord. His name is Elizabeth.) In that case they belong to Norway, as does Russia, The UK and North America, all conquered ar some point by the Vikings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 The Dukedom of Normany ruled England, and at some point seceded power to parliament. Jersey is a British Crown dependency, it has it's own parliament and is not part of the UK. The United Kingdom is however constitutionally responsible for the defence of Jersey. Simple, see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeX Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hey! - Get your thieving bloody hands off! Neither England nor the United Kingdom has ever owned Jersey - or any of the other Channel Islands. What sort of history did they teach where you went to school? In 1066, William, Duke of Normandy (AKA 'Bill the B**tard - but probably not to his face ) conquered England (to sort out Harold Oathbreaker.) The Channel Islands were a part of his Duchy. In those times, it was Kings and Dukes who owned lands. - One land didn't own another. Times have changed. We now tend to talk about a country's 'possessions' If you want to use that reasoning, then given that the Channel Islands are the only remaining territory of the lands which originally were known as 'Normandy' then neither Jersey nor the other Islands belong to the UK - You belong to us. "England is the oldest colony of the Channel Islands." :hihi: (Actually, it isn't quite that simple. The Channel Islands are still the personal possessions of the Duke of Normandy. The Duke of Normandy is my liege lord. His name is Elizabeth.) Did I say jersey was part of the UK? As Cyclone has already pointed out, Jersey is a British Crown Dependency which results in the UK being responsible for their defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstorm48 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The falklands is British any attempt at taking it off us will result in utter defeat for those that are stupid enough to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 so you can count almost every small island we own, including the shetlands, western isles, isle of white, isle of man, jersey? Did I say jersey was part of the UK? As Cyclone has already pointed out, Jersey is a British Crown Dependency which results in the UK being responsible for their defense. No, you said: so you can count almost every small island we own, including the shetlands, western isles, isle of white, isle of man, jersey? The Islands are a possession of the Crown (not the British government or anybody else) The UK does indeed have a responsibility for their defence - as it had on 30 Jun 1940 when the Germans occupied them. Churchill decided (probably wisely) that they were not worth defending. The loss of life would've been very high and they would have fallen anyway. They were not liberated until 9 May 1945, although the Cotentin peninsula was in Allied hands since about the 8th or 9th of June 1944 - almost a year earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 The UN discussion live on the news channels last night was very good. The Argentine Foreign Minister gave a long presentation about how the deployment of UK jets meant they were in striking distance of Southern Brazil. Does he honestly think that UK jets would attack South America? He came across as a dirty telltale little sneak running to the teacher (the UN) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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