MrMoran Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 So how come this gang of Somali youths come into this country, beat somebody to a pulp, get a suspended sentance, probably won't be deported, yet the racist woman on the tram (whose behaviour I am not excusing btw) who only caused hurt feelings since she didn't physically attack anybody, gets remanded and spends Christmas in jail? Its wrong. 100% wrong on every single possible level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 The Somalis must have been asylum seekers/successful asylum applicants too, I doubt they got here on a work or student permit. Ironic that they are able to flee the violence in their own country, we give them refuge, a safe haven, then they bring their violent ways to commit against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitisbad Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 The justice system doesn't help itself does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spooky3 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 He heard in mitigation that the four were not used to alcohol because their religion does not allow it. ref Well, according to most Muslims on here, they obviously aren't Muslims then if they were drinking! Therefore rendering the judges reasoning moot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansheff Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 What makes it worse for me is that the judge accepted the womans partner had used unreasonable force on the attackers, what was he supposed to do stand back and say carry on girls? As someone has said about the woman on the tram and her tirade it just isn't justice, it was disgusting what she did but she didn't gang up with others and physically attack someone. I cannot believe that had the boot been on the other foot we would have seen 4 girls getting custodial sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolli_pop Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 What makes it worse for me is that the judge accepted the womans partner had used unreasonable force on the attackers I really don't understand the judge's thinking. There was no "unreasonable" about it - he was trying to defend her. The attackers should be in prison. They could have killed her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoran Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I really don't understand the judge's thinking. There was no "unreasonable" about it - he was trying to defend her. The attackers should be in prison. They could have killed her. Having felt the long term repercusions of a single blow to the head i cant understand why these people werent charged with attempted murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansheff Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I really don't understand the judge's thinking. There was no "unreasonable" about it - he was trying to defend her. The attackers should be in prison. They could have killed her. Like I said, had the boot been on the other foot I am sure we would have seen custodial sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I really don't understand the judge's thinking. There was no "unreasonable" about it - he was trying to defend her. The fact that you're defending somebody doesn't mean you can use any amount of force you choose; you can only use what is reasonable. How that applies to this case is arguable, since the article does not specify what level of force he actually did use. As to the sentencing - frankly I'm all in favour of first offenders being made to do useful work instead of being locked up. Up to a point; if this attack was as vicious as the report makes it out to be, we're a long way past that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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