chem1st Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I have questions for you regarding that. Start another thread and I'll post them. Feel free to send them by PM, I'm going to save that thread for Xmas Eve, it'll be a festive friday housing rant! Telling people how they can negotiate lower rents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 and what has replaced religeon as a foundation for appropriate behaviour? Religion as a foundation for appropriate behavior? That's rich. Deuteronomy 7:12 God ordered the Israelites to kill all the people of seven nations. He even adds, “show no mercy unto them”. God endorses slavery. He even set up laws as to how slavery was to be carried out, and goes as far as approving the beating them. Exodus 21:2-6 God punishes children for the sins of their fathers, unto the third and fourth generations. Punishing a child for the sins of their ancestors is not very just. Exodus 20:5&34:7 God drowns the whole earth. In Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and perhaps unicorns. Only a single family survives. In Matthew 24:37-42, gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns. God kills half a million people. In 2 Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 of their fellow Israelites. Genocide after genocide after genocide. In Joshua 6:20-21, God helps the Israelites destroy Jericho, killing “men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.” In Deuteronomy 2:32-35, God has the Israelites kill everyone in Heshbon, including children. In Deuteronomy 3:3-7, God has the Israelites do the same to the people of Bashan. In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they take as spoils of war. In 1 Samuel 15:1-9, God tells the Israelites to kill all the Amalekites – men, women, children, infants, and their cattle – for something the Amalekites’ ancestors had done 400 years earlier. God burns two cities to death. In Genesis 19:24, God kills everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah with fire from the sky. Then God kills Lot’s wife for looking back at her burning home. The notion that human beings have no moral compass without religion is absurd. You would think that Bible bashing Jim Bakker, the American televangelist would be better behaved than most. And you'd be right. Except for the fraud, bribery and rape. Perhaps the Televangelists are taking the "Be Fruitful and Multiply" advice a bit too literally? Televangelist Admits Affair on TV Then there's famous prossie hound Jimmy Swaggart. Swaggart's exposure came as retaliation for an incident in 1986 when Swaggart exposed fellow Assemblies of God minister Marvin Gorman, who had been accused of having several affairs. Once exposed, Gorman was defrocked from the Assemblies of God, with his ministry all but ended. As a retaliatory move, Gorman hired his son Randy and son-in-law Garland Bilbo to stake out the Travel Inn on Airline Highway in New Orleans. A camera with a telephoto lens was placed in the window of the motel's Room 12 and draped with a black cloth. When Swaggart arrived, he reportedly went into Room 7. Randy Gorman and Garland Bilbo proceeded to let the air out of Swaggart's tires and called Marvin Gorman, whose church was located nearby. The two had taken photos of Swaggart outside of Room 7 with Debra Murphree, a local prostitute. Gorman showed up at the Travel Inn a short while later and asked Swaggart what he was doing there. According to, Swaggart: The Unauthorized Biography of an American Evangelist by Ann Rowe Seaman, Gorman secured a promise from Swaggart that he would publicly apologize to Gorman and start the process of Gorman's reinstatement to the Assemblies of God. Gorman offered to remain silent if Swaggart would state publicly that he lied about Gorman's affairs. Gorman waited almost a year, then hand delivered a note to Swaggart informing him his time was up, but Swaggart did not respond. LINK So let me get this straight. One adulterous minister tries to blackmail another adulterous minister into lying about the multiple affairs of the first adulterous minister? "Appropriate behavior" indeed. And let's not dwell too much on Catholic priests and their unholy fascination with the contents of little boys pants. Catholic sex abuse cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddycoffee Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 it's good news, but it is hardly news. All you have to do is walk around any british city that has over 200 years of buildings, there are as many disused churches as ones in use. religion has been in decline for 100 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Religion as a foundation for appropriate behavior? That's rich. Makes you wonder why people still believe in God doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Makes you wonder why people still believe in God doesn't it. Believing in God is fine, it's religion thats the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Believing in God is fine, it's religion thats the problem. But how would you know about God if it wasn't for religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardis Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I am an agnostic, dyslexic insomniac who often sits up all night long wondering if there is a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Religion as a foundation for appropriate behavior? That's rich. why? everything from anti-slavery to modern human rights has its origins in christian theology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Do you have a comment regarding the posts that have replied to you? Can you tell us why we need religion for our morality? i never said that we did, however everything which is considered moral has it's roots in christian theology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 But how would you know about God if it wasn't for religion. people knew gravity existed before the theory of gravity was thought-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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