fake Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 No to opt out but yes to keeping it as a opt in policy. Cant do the poll as its nothing to do with the question posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napalm Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 No to opt out but yes to keeping it as a opt in policy. Cant do the poll as its nothing to do with the question posted. So why should a person who would never donate an organ, be allowed to have a transplant? Seems immoral to me given such a shortage of organs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 So why should a person who would never donate an organ, be allowed to have a transplant? Seems immoral to me given such a shortage of organs. Give people who would donate priority, fine, but you can't just let people who could be saved die because they were brought up with some retarded religious mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Give people who would donate priority, fine, but you can't just let people who could be saved die because they were brought up with some retarded religious mentality. Giving those on the donor list priority would amount to doing exactly that, since organs are in such short supply. Anyone without that priority would have no chance whatsoever of ever reaching the top of the waiting list. On the other hand, if we transferred to an "opt out" system the number of available organs would probably increase by some orders of magnitude. I strongly suspect that the vast majority of those who don't carry a donor card have no great moral objection to organ donation, but just never bother to sign up. If (if!) I am right, then changing to an opt-out system would mean that even those who opted out could probably still be saved, despite not getting priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napalm Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 Give people who would donate priority, fine, but you can't just let people who could be saved die because they were brought up with some retarded religious mentality. The same people would deny the possibility of a chance of life by refusing to donate there own organs, so it does seem to me immoral to have them on a waiting list at all for a transplant. Even with reduced priority, regardless of faith ethnicity etc. If, in my opinion, an individual opts out of an organ donation scheme they should also be barred from ever being added to a transplant waiting list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 The same people would deny the possibility of a chance of life by refusing to donate there own organs, so it does seem to me immoral to have them on a waiting list at all for a transplant. You could well argue (and I'd agree with you) that it is immoral for them to want to receive organs despite refusing to donate. I'm not so sure that you can make a case for it being immoral, on the part of the doctors, to save their life if they can do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 On the other hand, if we transferred to an "opt out" system the number of available organs would probably increase by some orders of magnitude A change I have strongly advocated ever since I heard of the success in other countries. Why aren't we doing that? It makes so much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napalm Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 You could well argue (and I'd agree with you) that it is immoral for them to want to receive organs despite refusing to donate. I'm not so sure that you can make a case for it being immoral, on the part of the doctors, to save their life if they can do so. Your first part I agree. Your second part is harder, however we do allow doctors to do that now. In areas such as the allocation of new drugs etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 If you have opted out of organ donation, you are not allowed to receive a donated organ if you need one . Would that apply to blood transfusion as well?..If you've never donated you can never have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napalm Posted December 13, 2011 Author Share Posted December 13, 2011 A change I have strongly advocated ever since I heard of the success in other countries. Why aren't we doing that? It makes so much sense. I am at a loss to understand why not as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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