1 week to impending homelessness crisis. (Starting Jan 2012)

[Titanic99]

He's also wrong.

 

The shared room rate is not changing in a weeks time.

 

The shared room rate is not dropping in a weeks time.

 

There was also something on the news about a week ago that said that although Yorkshire and particularly South Yorkshire is one of the cheapest places in the country to rent private rent prices were actually increasing at a rate outstripping the rest of the country

 

Which aspect of his post is wrong.

 

I accept he/she might have been better to put something in that indicates the rates will start to fall, but other than that his post looks spot on.

 

From 2/1/12 the cuts to Housing Benefit/LHA kick in to help make the poor pay for the mistakes of the rich.

[Titanic99]

LHA payments are going down but only because the 9 month grace period is over. People on housing benefit should be aware of this. Landlords are aware of this. Landlords have already been dropping their rents in areas popular with tenants who claim HB.

 

35 year olds will not be subjected to the shared room rate in a week. To say they will is scaremongering at best and lying at worst.

 

He says under 35 though!

[love_rat]

A little birdie tells me there'll be some jobs going at the job centre as unemployment rockets further.

 

Anyhow. In one week from now, the benefit system is going to change.

 

Previously unemployed people under 25 were entitled to the shared room amount. (And not the amount required to rent a 1 bed property)

This will be extended to people under 35.

 

If your under 35 and living in a 1 bedroom+ property this is going to affect you.

 

But not only this, LHA cuts will finally work through the system.

If you claim any form of local housing allowance it's going to drop. Be you in work, on the dole or on the fiddle.

 

Don't worry. This is actually a blessing in disguise. This is going to be good for Britain and make working more financially viable. But only if you know what to do.

 

You MUST DEMAND RENT REDUCTION. Be you in work, on the dole etc.

 

When LHA was £60 you couldn't rent anywhere for less than £60.

Now it's going to reduce to £50, you'll be able to rent property for as low as £50.

 

Do not consider this as a cut in benefits, consider this as a cut in your rent, and for those making the transition from dole to work, they will be better off, as they will be earning more of their earnings for themselves and not for their landlords.

 

Homeowners/mortgagees your property will be worth less, but fear not, property is for living it, not a means of investment to get rich without working. Live in it and worry not of the price.

 

Buy to let investors, you were warned, you were greedy, and by trying to exploit the needy, by God you shall learn your lesson.

 

However this ain't going to be a smooth process, unless everyone demands rent reduction, and landlords accept it. There is going to be a huge short-term spike in homelessness. Buy to let investors will go bust (some will probably kill themselves - let's hope they don't, but more importantly, that they don't kill anyone else), and property will become more affordable.

 

If you are caught up in this crisis in any shape or form, just remember this is necessary to restore the work ethic.

Workers need the fruits of their own labour, they can't give them all to a Rachman. The Rachman must get up off his own arse and support himself. Rachman must have his benefit cut.

 

DEMAND RENT REDUCTION

 

 

 

 

I bet you don't get many invites to christmas partys

 

At the start of the night its a happy occaision and by the end of the night everyone wants to commit suicide

[discodown]

Which aspect of his post is wrong.

 

I accept he/she might have been better to put something in that indicates the rates will start to fall, but other than that his post looks spot on.

 

From 2/1/12 the cuts to Housing Benefit/LHA kick in to help make the poor pay for the mistakes of the rich.

He says under 35 though!

Currently if you are single, childless and under 25 you are subject to shared room rate. That is not changing. The OP clearly says that it will change so that it affects 25-34 year olds. This is not true.

[Titanic99]

Currently if you are single, childless and under 25 you are subject to shared room rate. That is not changing. The OP clearly says that it will change so that it affects 25-34 year olds. This is not true.

 

Afraid it is, here's a link to a Local Authority website but there are many others.

 

http://www.rochdale.gov.uk/benefits_and_grants/housing_and_council_tax_benefi/local_housing_allowance_-_bite/local_housing_allowance_-_chan.aspx

[sccsux]

Eh?! Smallest donation is £23?! I can't afford that!

 

How much does your internet, phone, TV, TV licence cost you?

[mart]

Chem1st,

 

I have a genuine question in respect of what I perceive your thoughts & feelings are towards (against?) land-lords (and I am not a land-lord) Is it not better per se, that landlords have bought up these properties to rent out, as opposed to them being left empty & often derelict?

 

Surely the less properties are available, the greater the chance of rents being higher? Do you not see it as a positive aspect that landlords are providing extra homes for people?

 

Or, is one of the root causes of property shortages due to Maggie Thatcher’s “right to buy” policy? What have the local authorities done with all the money from house sales over the years? Has it been reinvested in new house building?

[love_rat]

TO be fair though its still not a bad deal.

 

I reckon many low paid full time workers don't even recieve some of the sums being paid out in housing benefit.

 

Looking at the 5 bed option, or £400 a week, if you were on the min wage of £6.08 an hour you would need to be working 66 hours a week to make £400 net, and if you wanted the gross (ie, £400 after tax), you would need to be earning nearly £500 a week, so thats another 16 hours work.

 

Its not bad, £400 in housing rent paid "vs" an 82 hour working week on the minimum wage.

 

Can hardly see what the fuss is about

[discodown]

Afraid it is, here's a link to a Local Authority website but there are many others.

 

http://www.rochdale.gov.uk/benefits_and_grants/housing_and_council_tax_benefi/local_housing_allowance_-_bite/local_housing_allowance_-_chan.aspx

You're quite right.

 

I apologise to you and to Chem1st. This foul, punitive, terrible, vile piece of law is being implemented. Its a shocking piece of benefit law that benefits nobody. The only good news it that they've amended it so that some disabled people are exempt aside from the only reason its been implemented is to save a few quid but the misery it will cause can't be measured in mere pounds. This is the thin end of the wedge.

[discodown]

TO be fair though its still not a bad deal.

 

I reckon many low paid full time workers don't even recieve some of the sums being paid out in housing benefit.

 

Looking at the 5 bed option, or £400 a week, if you were on the min wage of £6.08 an hour you would need to be working 66 hours a week to make £400 net, and if you wanted the gross (ie, £400 after tax), you would need to be earning nearly £500 a week, so thats another 16 hours work.

 

Its not bad, £400 in housing rent paid "vs" an 82 hour working week on the minimum wage.

 

Can hardly see what the fuss is about

£400 is the national maximum. what you actually get depends on your council. You can't demand £400 from sheffield council every week. They will pay whatever they pay for the 4 bed rate