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Global warming is so called because it's an average across the globe. Just because we in Britain have one severe month (it was only last December that was very cold) doesn't mean it isn't warming up on average across the planet. Yasser Arafat above's call that we should wait a for more years ignores the fact that this has already been going on for a while.

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Global warming is so called because it's an average across the globe. Just because we in Britain have one severe month (it was only last December that was very cold) doesn't mean it isn't warming up on average across the planet. Yasser Arafat above's call that we should wait a for more years ignores the fact that this has already been going on for a while.

 

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"The entire planet has stopped warming since 1998 and, more significantly, has started to cool since 2003. Instead of warning people of cooler weather for the next 30 years, there’s still the distinct false sense of expectation of unprecedented warming. People and governments are being urged to go entirely in the wrong direction for the wrong reasons – and at a potentially horrendous price.

 

Just look at what happened in UK. Ten years ago Britons were told to expect global warming only and that snow would be a thing of the past. Yet the opposite has arrived, three winters in a row. This winter it crippled the entire nation for nearly a month in December 2010."

 

Some tell you one thing, others another. Stasis appears not to be an option.

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The planet has warmed and cooled periodically since time began with the 'sharpest' rise in temperatures being way back around the 1200ad mark.. long before 'man made' CO2 emissions. This was a 'fact' produced by historical scientists taking Earth samples from around the globe. Of course, this will never convince the current climate change scientists (paid by pro-green tax political elite) nor climate change hippies and cyclists alike, so its best that we just say "yeah man, this December has been really warm - the BBQ Chicken xmas dinner made me realise that the Range Rover is a bad idea and i should buy a bicycle".

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A warmer atmosphere holds more moisture and creates higher winds. Record high temperatures have been twice as numerous as record lows in recent years.

 

Global warming? Well, what do you think?

 

Can hold more moisture. - It's very warm in many deserts, but not very humid.

 

'...and creates higher winds...' What is the evidence to support that? - I suggest that the causes of high winds are probably a little more complex than that.

 

In temperate latitudes (where you live) most of the weather is caused by depressions forming on the Polar front - the boundary between polar air and the air masses in temperate regions. Where I live (at the moment) the high winds in summer are caused by tropical storms (triggered by the inter-tropical convergence zone and often exacerbated by warm seas in summer.)

 

Accurate and complete meteorological records don't go back very far, but there is little doubt that at various times the atmosphere has been warmer than it is now and that it has been colder, too.

 

In the 1970s we were told that the planet was cooling and would eventually enter an ice age.

 

In the 1990s we were told that the planet was warming.

 

Now some scientists (including some who - 20 years ago - predicted continued global warming) are questioning that prediction.

 

The Arctic ice cap is decreasing - but the thickness of the Antarctic ice cap is increasing.

 

Human beings produce more CO2 nowadays than they did 100 years ago - but then again, there are more than 3 times as many of them on the planet than there were 100 years ago. There are also rather more cattle on the planet than there were 100 years ago and their methane output (together with the output of greenhouse gases from agriculture in general) greatly exceeds the output from vehicle exhausts.

 

Industrialised nations produce higher emissions than do non-industrialised nations, but they also produce much of the wealth (and food) which feeds and assists poorer nations.

 

Were we to try to turn the agricultural/industrial clock back, say, 200 years, how many people would starve? How many people would die through lack of medical treatment?

 

It seems to me to be prudent to do what we can to minimise damage to the environment (and banning the destruction of tropical rain forests would be a start) but I do wonder whether humans can have a greater effect on climate change than nature can on its own? - Somehow, I doubt it.

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The atmosphere isn't at QNE.

 

But of course it is prudent, that is why we should collectively, regardless of what we believe individually. To do anything else is to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

 

"The entire planet has stopped warming since 1998 and, more significantly, has started to cool since 2003. Instead of warning people of cooler weather for the next 30 years, there’s still the distinct false sense of expectation of unprecedented warming. People and governments are being urged to go entirely in the wrong direction for the wrong reasons – and at a potentially horrendous price.

 

Just look at what happened in UK. Ten years ago Britons were told to expect global warming only and that snow would be a thing of the past. Yet the opposite has arrived, three winters in a row. This winter it crippled the entire nation for nearly a month in December 2010."

 

Some tell you one thing, others another. Stasis appears not to be an option.

 

The people telling us that ten years ago must have had a fundamental misunderstanding of global warming.

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"The entire planet has stopped warming since 1998 and, more significantly, has started to cool since 2003. Instead of warning people of cooler weather for the next 30 years, there’s still the distinct false sense of expectation of unprecedented warming. People and governments are being urged to go entirely in the wrong direction for the wrong reasons – and at a potentially horrendous price.

 

Just look at what happened in UK. Ten years ago Britons were told to expect global warming only and that snow would be a thing of the past. Yet the opposite has arrived, three winters in a row. This winter it crippled the entire nation for nearly a month in December 2010."

 

Some tell you one thing, others another. Stasis appears not to be an option.

 

These sites appear to contradict the site you quoted.

 

2010 sets new temperature records

In terms of looking at recent years, 1998 was the most anomalous - the remaining top 10 warmest years in the series have all occurred since 2000

For global records, 2010 is the hottest year on record, tied with 2005.

Oceans for instance -- due to their immense size and heat storing capability (called 'thermal mass') -- tend to give a much more 'steady' indication of the warming that is happening. Here records show that the Earth has been warming at a steady rate before and since 1998 and there's no signs of it slowing any time soon.

 

NASA reports that 2010 was tied with 2005 as the hottest year on record. NCDC also reports that 2010 was tied with 2005 for the hottest year on record, and Hadley, UAH, RSS reported 2010 as the second hottest year on record.

 

NASA Research Finds 2010 Tied for Warmest Year on Record

 

the next warmest years are 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007 and 2009,

If the warming trend continues, as is expected, if greenhouse gases continue to increase, the 2010 record will not stand for long," said James Hansen, the director of GISS.

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