RootsBooster Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 But it doesn't. Atheism exists as an opposite of belief in god. Without one the other would be needless. Since it's a description used to describe a non believer the baby cannot be described as an atheist as it is impossible for it to be either. You're saying that post #27 is incorrect? Atheism is a LACK of belief not an OPPOSITE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 So do you think it's more complicated for a new born baby than for a church-going adult? don't get me thinking about babies.i might start getting broody and i'm much to old for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 ... and what is your source for this definition of God? I have yet to find an agreed definition for God, does a definition even exist for God that all those that believe in God agree with. The definition appears to be open to interpretation by the individual, much the same as human emotions. Ask for a definition of love and i am sure you will get many different answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy Jnr Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 You're saying that post #27 is incorrect? Atheism is a LACK of belief not an OPPOSITE. No sir i'm not, what i'm saying is that without a peoples belief in God there would be no 'atheism' and since the child knows nothing of either it cannot be described as an atheist or for that matter a believer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavegirl Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 No sir i'm not, what i'm saying is that without a peoples belief in God there would be no 'atheism' and since the child knows nothing of either it cannot be described as an atheist or for that matter a believer. That's exactly what I thought originally, but if you think about it it is wrong. Think of the words that begin with 'a' or 'an': amoral- someone with no morals abiotic- a substance with no life anonymous- someone with no name Therefore an atheist is someone without god- this can be attributed to babies or adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomdido Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I never said it doesn't. I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has "found God" without being primed with the concept first. I have yet to find anyone with the Christian faith who wasn't; a) indoctrinated into it as a child or b) had a crisis and found a friend in jesus It has also been proved that less intelligent people are more likely to believe in gods. In Sweden 80% of the polulation are atheists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy Jnr Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 God has his opposite in the form of the Devil/Hell. We even get threatened with going to there if we denounce God. There has to be an opposite to enforce the other, a punishment, the good versus evil chit chat. Atheism is in direct conflict with belief it's the opposite of a believer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavegirl Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 God has his opposite in the form of the Devil/Hell. We even get threatened with going to there if we denounce God. There has to be an opposite to enforce the other, a punishment, the good versus evil chit chat. Atheism is in direct conflict with belief it's the opposite of a believer. That would be an antitheist, not an atheist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 No sir i'm not, what i'm saying is that without a peoples belief in God there would be no 'atheism' and since the child knows nothing of either it cannot be described as an atheist or for that matter ba believer. What you are describing in your posts is an antitheist, someone who not only has an absence of belief (an atheist) but actually rejects the idea of God (antitheist). If you agree that post #27 is correct then any person, of any age, who does not HAVE a belief in God (whether there's a reason for it or not) is an atheist. It really is that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy Jnr Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 That's exactly what I thought originally, but if you think about it it is wrong. Think of the words that begin with 'a' or 'an': amoral- someone with no morals abiotic- a substance with no life anonymous- someone with no name Therefore an atheist is someone without god- this can be attributed to babies or adults. But the adult can be given a title because of their capacity to understand. He or she decides to either believe or not or to be in a state of uncertainty, the baby does not have the capacity to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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