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The global OCCUPY movement - How informed are you?  

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  1. 1. The global OCCUPY movement - How informed are you?

    • Done lots of research and fully understand OCCUPY
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    • Done some research and understand OCCUPY a little
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    • Done no research but would like to
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    • Done no research and would not like to
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Gladly.

 

First step, we need to fix our economy.

 

Very briefly...

 

We back every pound in the country with a KWH value in electricity. This is the value the government will exchange our pounds for. Monetary policy then becomes a matter of keeping the price of electricity below the government exchange rate.

 

The banks can then no longer recklessly print money out of thin air because it's backed with a usable commodity. Using electricity also has lots of nice side effects. Firstly it means our economy is driven to be as efficient and green as possible. Secondly because anyone with a solar panel can create electricity it enables the distribution of the bankers ability to print new money. It's a bit like any one being able to mine gold in their back garden. We have smart grid technology ready for deployment now.

 

The computer boffins are also working on a bitcoin style implementation of such a scheme. In fact examples of electricity vouchers that can be and are traded already exist. Coal has also been used as currency in a similar way in the past.

 

Once the economy is pointing the right way and once the banker monopoly is broken up, their will be no hidden hand of the Rothschilds telling our politicians what to do. We will find they become much more responsive to the people once this satanic influence is removed.

 

Implementing a peer to peer referendum and voting system wouldn't be difficult either. To start with it could be informal. As long as everyone can see how the public voted on issues (even if it had no effect on policy) we could all see how closely the politicians decisions matched the voting record of the public.

 

If a politician chooses to go against the will of the people his policy had better work or else the majority of the people would be demanding to know why he thought he knew better than them. Too many such mistakes and the politicians would be out.

 

Improving the access to information is essential. I want to see every square inch of the houses of parliament live on my phone. If we can do it with occupy protests why cant we do it with politics. I also want to see every document and have access to every bit of research. I want to hear every single word that comes out of MY prime ministers mouth. No more secret meetings, I want to be empowered with information. That goes for the BOE and it's Governor too (although by this time the banks decisions should be made for it by the availability of electricity)

 

There is no reason why this has to stop with national politics. It's even more important that this is implemented at the world bank, UN, IMF, etc.

 

Once these systems are in place we can slowly phase one set of politics out and give more power to the other. I envisage everyone having a smartphone that lets them vote on every single issue should they want to, with real time factual information fed in to the system by the same people who currently feed information to the government. Namely technicians, skilled in whatever policy area they are specialists in.

 

If I feel strongly enough about an issue I can raise it in a huge public chat room. I can kind of imagine a huge forum with several channels and sub forums that could make up an alternative government.

 

I'm trying to be brief but I hope you get the general idea.

 

Who would have control of the electricity? And who would use the extra electricity that needs to be generated in order to loan someone the money to invest in a business or buy an house.

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Wow - so electricity suppliers are going to dictate monetary policy?

 

Not quite. If your genuinely interested in the concept you can find more info at the links below. I can't be bothered to explain it to people who won't read this first.

 

I'm not saying that's you I'm just saying I'm tired now and my single typing finger hurts.

 

http://www.energybackedmoney.com

 

http://p2pfoundation.net/Energy-Backed_Currencies

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Actually there is no reason for there to be poor people now. It's choices made by the 1% that keep people in poverty. A very important concept to grasp is...

 

WEALTH CAUSES POVERTY.

 

Get rid of the 1% and you get rid of poverty. I can't bothered to explain this now. I've been typing all night and I'm tired. Go away and do some homework.

 

Been tried in the Soviet Union. Didn't work.

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Straw man argument.

 

Nobody on this thread has suggested anything like it.

 

OK. You asked what a camera and IRC has to do with running a country. I'll tell you.

 

Camera's give us access to information. We can hold our politicians to account because we can see what they do.

 

IRC helps us to collaborate. Lots of organizations use IRC to communicate and it helps them work together. The beauty of IRC is that it's infinitely scalable. There is no reason why 6 billion people cannot be in the same chat room at once. "Politicians" included.

 

There. They weren't straw man arguments were they.

 

Now can you please tell us your idea before you ask me anything else. Fair's fair I say.

 

If you have nothing else to contribute but silly questions and insults I suggest you shut up, stop being negative and go and do some reading until you've developed a better idea of your own.

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Not quite. If your genuinely interested in the concept you can find more info at the links below. I can't be bothered to explain it to people who won't read this first.

 

I'm not saying that's you I'm just saying I'm tired now and my single typing finger hurts.

 

http://www.energybackedmoney.com

 

http://p2pfoundation.net/Energy-Backed_Currencies

 

Why would anyone read it all when they make incorrect assumptions I the first and second paragraphs.

For example, in 1915 the price of a gallon of milk was $0.36 and today it is over $3.00 per gallon.

Milk is cheaper today than it was in 1915, how many hours did one have to work to get $0.36 and hours many hours today would they need to work to get $3.00. You will find it takes less work to buy the milk today, therefore no inflation.

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Why would anyone read it all when they make incorrect assumptions I the first and second paragraphs.

 

Milk is cheaper today than it was in 1915, how many hours did one have to work to get $0.36 and hours many hours today would they need to work to get $3.00. You will find it takes less work to buy the milk today, therefore no inflation.

Unless you're a dairy farmer, of course
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OK. You asked what a camera and IRC has to do with running a country. I'll tell you.

 

Camera's give us access to information. We can hold our politicians to account because we can see what they do.

 

IRC helps us to collaborate. Lots of organizations use IRC to communicate and it helps them work together. The beauty of IRC is that it's infinitely scalable. There is no reason why 6 billion people cannot be in the same chat room at once. "Politicians" included.

 

There. They weren't straw man arguments were they.

 

Now can you please tell us your idea before you ask me anything else. Fair's fair I say.

 

If you have nothing else to contribute but silly questions and insults I suggest you shut up, stop being negative and go and do some reading until you've developed a better idea of your own.

 

Have you ever used IRC? It's an outdated and incredibly insecure way of communicating. Also can you imagine 6 billion people conversing on the same topic? Good luck with that one.

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