Scottish Independence

[Zamo]

And likewise I've never voted for the nasty divisive tories in my entire life, your point is?

 

Actually, the nasty Tories desperately want a union of British people... it is the SNP that is the divisive political party.

[BEDROCK]

I see David Cameron is getting riled up now, efffing this and efffing that

 

Perhaps he is now fighting for his job with the results going to the wire !!!

[geared]

No the polls have settled down again, the surge of the yes vote seems to have subsided.

 

Even the bookies have the No vote firmly in front

[taxman]

People in other regions of the UK could say the same thing about Labour! What makes the Scots so different?

 

Because they are a different nationality.

[BEDROCK]

I wonder what the Scotch whisky industry think of all this, the whisky trade is probably Scotland's biggest export ???

[geared]

I wonder what the Scotch whisky industry think of all this, the whisky trade is probably Scotland's biggest export ???

 

Currently all industry is second to their main export of 'hot air'

:hihi::hihi:

[blake]

Thatcher and the Scots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31FGZZ9Jb1E

 

if anybody is interested here in this documentary from around the 43 minute mark is Michael Gove and especially Malcolm Rifkind explaining why Scotland got the poll tax a year ahead of England and Wales.

 

the socialist/Scots Nats legend/narrative and one that I believed at the time too, is that Scotland was chosen first as a 'guinea pig' i.e. a bunch of English nationalists in London trying it out first on the Scots.

 

but it wasn't like that at all. It just suited the anti-Thatcherite Scots and the left in general to paint it that way.

 

in actual fact the idea of trying it out in Scotland first was the idea of the Scottish Tories. They thought it was going to be a vote winner!

 

speciacular political miscalculation it may have been, but using the Scots as 'guinea pigs' for the poll tax it was not - as a moment's thought ought to tell anybody really, because if it really was using the Scots as 'guinea pigs', the reaction from them in 1989 ought to have been enough for Thatcher and the Tories to have abandoned it there and then, rather than introducing it in England and Wales the following year.

[Mecky]

Actually, the nasty Tories desperately want a union of British people... it is the SNP that is the divisive political party.

 

Trying saying that to the unemployed, disabled, council tenants, elderly, civil services and families in the UK and why do the tories want union with Scotland when most of them vote Labour?

[L00b]

Alex Salmond goes to war with BBC over RBS 'leak'

 

He accused Mr Robinson of “heckling” him at a press conference in Edinburgh for international journalists covering the independence referendum while a group of his Nationalist supporters cheered his broadside.

 

In an extraordinary performance, he attacked major Scottish employers such as Standard Life and BP for colluding with the UK Government to undermine independence.

 

In a separate BBC interview, he appeared to concede that he had not factored in the tens of billions of pounds of sterling reserves the Governor of the Bank of England said he would require using the pound without a formal currency union.

 

Mr Salmond said the BBC’s disclosure of the RBS decision on Wednesday night was a matter of “extraordinary gravity” and he was writing to Sir Jeremy Heywood, the Cabinet Secretary and head of the British civil service, demanding an investigation.

Mr Salmond is finding out that there is a cost to being a populist, once outed: ridicule. Edited September 11, 2014 by L00b

[truman]

I'm not sure i like the way Mr Salmond seems to say that anyone who tries to point out any bad possible consequence of independence (banks moving,no currency union etc) is scaremongering..looks like he's putting his head in the sand.....