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17 billion (plus) on High Speed Trains


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It would be nice if all the rail and infrastructure and carriages will be UK made and not given to EU or far east contractors. Sheffiled could do well with the rail tracks required!

 

There are no UK owned train manufacturers with the expertise and size to do this kind of job. The only real options are Siemens (German), Alsthom (France), Hitachi (Japan) and Bombardier (Canada). All the old train builders in this country were bought out by the above.

 

That said, Bombardier still have the Derby assembly plant, Hitachi are building one in Gateshead, and Siemens are investigating one near London. Siemens, despite not having an assembly plant here, currently employ more Brits in rail technology than any of thier competitors, as various departments, such as the motor design and software development are based entirely in the UK.

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Its better than a commutable distance, less time between Birmingham and London than it is from certain parts of Sheffield to town on a bus (33 mins?)! And then what was it, an hour and 20 mins from Leeds to London?

In the region of 1 million jobs to be created by the 20 year project too.

 

I takes you to a point in London ,that is the station.you then have the commute to wherever you are heading for.

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It will benefit the economy (when it is complete) by moving people & goods around the country faster and at a lower cost than is currently possible (if you ignore the building costs).

This means that people as far away as Sheffield, Leeds & Manchester will be able to commute to London for work & people from a wider area will be able to work in Sheffield too. Sheffield businesses will be able to serve a wider area & will be able to set up better links with London & other UK cities.

 

We have a lot to gain from improving transport & communication links.

 

So the prices in the shops will be reduced then? Yeah right.

 

And the part about commuting, I don't think the journey time will be reduced that much and besides, who is going to pay for a ticket anyway since the ticket prices will be so prohibitive? It may be an exception for season ticket packages on expenses from the employer, but they will surely then attempt to recoup the cost by increasing the cost of good and sevices. What happens to area of the UK, the larger part, not covered by high speed rail links?

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waste of money, along with the olympics, it will be double the price (hopefully) by the time its completed and i cant see how its going to benefit people in sheffield apart from the odd one or two people who go see jedward live at wembley, the money would have been better spent on a broadband system so we could have teleconfernce video's thus saving a massive ammount of travel, but thats for another argument i suppose. so in hindsight BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!

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My OH just asked the most important question on the subject...

 

"BUT HOW MUCH IS A TICKET GOING TO COST?"

 

The Minister said the fares would be comparable to other rail fares of a similar distance.

 

So if it starts running in 2026. And rail fares continue to go up year on year by inflation plus 3% then find a price for a journey today and you should be able to work it out.:)

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"17 billion (plus) on High Speed Trains" seems that figure is out of date, 32 BILLION on the news tonight.

 

Fare prices will be low says a spokesperson, and the moon is made of green cheese, whoops and their goes another flying pig past the window.

 

Angel.

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The Minister said the fares would be comparable to other rail fares of a similar distance.

 

So if it starts running in 2026. And rail fares continue to go up year on year by inflation plus 3% then find a price for a journey today and you should be able to work it out.:)

 

£17 billion? :hihi:

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£17 billion? :hihi:

 

That's one way at peak time on a Friday during a month with an R in it providing you have a pass, have booked in advance with a forward facing, aisle seat and are carrying a mongoose.

 

Otherwise it's a lot more expensive :)

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