Girl turns down 'mandatory' work placement

[ricgem2002]

anyone working in this country whether they work 8/16/24/32/40 hours needs paying and if necessary their wage topped up with benefit/tax credits. no one in this country should be forced to take any kind of unpaid work just to please the high and mighty. this gov and the last has planted a seed in our minds to turn us against each other while still making themselves richer/fiddle expences/use tax loopholes. well done to the gullible you fell for it

[Ms Macbeth]

18 months of signing on won't look good on her CV! I can't believe that a young graduate, who has done some voluntary work, can't get a paid job of sorts.

 

She needs to be realistic, not just about what jobs are available, but where they are. There are appropriate jobs, but they may not be in her locality. I think people have a choice, they either follow their dream job wherever it is, or stay at home and take what is available.

 

Museum jobs here: http://www.museumjobs.com/jobdetails.php?JobID=6909

[mj.scuba]

In which case, in my opinion, unpaid work should not include work in private sector companies.

 

I get the it's to glean exeperience in order to make the person more appealing to employers but would you be happy to be doing your job for £53 a week when someone doing the exact same hours and work is being paid the full wage?

 

And why is it that these private sector companies are taking on these unpaid workers? If the work needs to be done and they don't have the staff then why aren't they hiring someone?

 

I agree. And if the work experience people are still in receipt of benefits while doing the work experience, and they're doing work for private sector companies, that pretty much means the taxpayer is subsidising the labour costs of these companies which potentially gives them an unfair advantage over their competitors who don't take on the work experience people.

[sccsux]

You don't really need land for a lot of businesses.

 

Please explain how (even working from home requires property, built on land).

 

Isn't the plural of 'Pens' 'Penses'?

 

Isn't "pens" the plural of "pen"?

 

A job out of a job is always easier

 

There is no job involved with this. The woman is already working as a volunteer.

 

Most future employers would admire this on a cv rather than knock her for taking the job, it would strength of character

 

There is no job.

 

Also, an employer would equally admire voluntary work on a CV

 

Couldn't agree more, but that's always been the Tory way, hasn't it?

 

It was Labour that involved a4e.

[Tony]

There is no job involved with this. The woman is already working as a volunteer.

I guess that you mean for Poundland?

 

But you have made a good point. Real volunteering is a tremendous way to build both your CV and experience. The museums and heritage sector has one or two opportunities I understand.

 

Maybe that's why the museums jobs on the above link are so low paid and so rare to come by? Check out this advert and the qualifications required.

Job Description:

ASSISTANT CURATOR

PART TIME- 60%

Fixed Term for 21 Months

Post number- 48602

Band 500

Starting salary is normally in the range £20,346 to £21,864. With potential progression once in post to £25,312 a year.(Please note the salary will be pro-rata to that advertised.)

Closing date for applications: 27 January 2012

We are looking for an energetic Assistant Curator (0.6 FTE) to join our busy Collections and Learning team. You will be involved in all aspects of the care, development and interpretation of the Barber Institute’s world-class collections. You will also assist with preparations for our 80th Birthday Year exhibitions programme (2012/13) working with Head of Collections and Learning and Exhibition Officer. A postgraduate qualification in History of Art or Museum Studies, with a good general knowledge of European art history 1250-1950, is essential, as are excellent organisational, communication and interpersonal skills. Specialist knowledge of European prints and drawings 1250-1950 and a significant publications record in this field is highly desirable.

 

To download the details and submit an electronic application online visit: http://www.hr.bham.ac.uk/jobs alternatively information can be obtained from 0121 415 9000.

 

Valuing excellence; sustaining investment.

 

The lady in the OP might not have thought her career through. Maybe Poundland are doing her a favour with a massive reality check?

[Shef_Fitness]

 

The lady in the OP might not have thought her career through. Maybe Poundland are doing her a favour with a massive reality check?

 

 

 

 

The only people who are being done a favour here are the companys who get the slave workforce (and the £2000 bonus once the 3 week placement has been completed)

 

This was the system under Labour, hopefully the conservatives will change this.

 

If there is a job that needs to be done, employ people and give them a wage.

[DenadaInnit]

So, to sum up

 

Graduate gets dole money of about £56 a week.

Works for it at Poundland. Works 35 hours a week at £1.60 per hour.

Paid workers in Poundland get minimum wage of £6.08 if over age.

Poundland uses free labour for about three weeks.

Poundland receives £2000 for 'training' unemployed people.

 

Cost to the taxpayer is £2,000 plus the miserly dole of about £168 = £2168.

Cost to the taxpayer if Poundland find some ethics and refuse to exploit unemployed £168.

[ricgem2002]

The only people who are being done a favour here are the companys who get the slave workforce (and the £2000 bonus once the 3 week placement has been completed)

 

This was the system under Labour, hopefully the conservatives will change this.

 

If there is a job that needs to be done, employ people and give them a wage.

i think this was brought in by the tories in the 80 s with the youth oppertunities scheme

[Nagel]

i think this was brought in by the tories in the 80 s with the youth oppertunities scheme

 

Or even the late 70s. I got a job in Rotherham museum under the youth opportunities scheme back then, cataloguing fossils. Just the sort of job this young woman wants!

[Anna B]

First of all this is costing the tax payer, she maybe going to court but is she going o pay for the solicitors etc - I guess not.

 

Would she sue if she had to pay -I guess not.What people leaving university forget is that the majority of degrees don't actually train you for work, they only provide you with knowledge to take into the work place, the best people to work for and with are the ones that take every opportunity as a learning experience, grab it by both hands learn and move on to the next level.

 

A job out of a job is always easier

 

Most future employers would admire this on a cv rather than knock her for taking the job, it would strength of character.

 

Every day should be a school day - every opportunity is an opportunity on learn

 

Some of the most successful people started from scratch and worked their way up

 

So what you are saying is that common justice is beyond the means of ordinary people.

 

You would be right.

 

After we've dealt with the bankers and politicians, the legal system in this country should be next in line.