Ghostrider Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 WHAT?????.....Doesn't 'earnings' mean payment? If the work is voluntary, there's no payment! The DWP have a sneaky rule that says if you do voluntary work, and if you didnt do it, they would have to pay someone to do it, they class that as notional earnings, and treat you as receiving payment for it... They got me on that one last year and I ended up "owing" them nearly £3000 ! And no, im not joking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The DWP have a sneaky rule that says if you do voluntary work, and if you didnt do it, they would have to pay someone to do it, they class that as notional earnings, and treat you as receiving payment for it... They got me on that one last year and I ended up "owing" them nearly £3000 ! And no, im not joking.... My GOD....that's utterly bonkers!!!!...I've heard it all now! :rant: I can vaguely see some sort of logic there, if you're effectively 'doing someone out of a job that they would otherwise have to employ someone to do'. But I think we're talking about voluntary work here, not 'doing someone out of paid employment' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 You think they'll allow you to die! It's probably better than having to pay me a pension!!!!!...So they might! :hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Meh, I've been doing voluntary work for 22 years nearly, since I did my work experience from School when I was 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Thats not trolling, thats joking - maybe you should learn to tell the difference ! And by the way, I seem to remember a post you made, where you said you dont have to tell the DWP anything about your voluntary job - I corrected you telling them that you do, and explained the notional earnings thing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balpin Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 My GOD....that's utterly bonkers!!!!...I've heard it all now! :rant: I can vaguely see some sort of logic there, if you're effectively 'doing someone out of a job that they would otherwise have to employ someone to do'. But I think we're talking about voluntary work here, not 'doing someone out of paid employment' Yet this 'government' is talking about sending dolemen out working collecting litter etc. If this work is needing to be done, then surely it should be organised and paid as work. Not slave labour as this government is wanting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The DWP have a sneaky rule that says if you do voluntary work, and if you didnt do it, they would have to pay someone to do it, they class that as notional earnings, and treat you as receiving payment for it... They got me on that one last year and I ended up "owing" them nearly £3000 ! And no, im not joking.... That's outrageous! Are you sure? If so that deserves a thread of its own.... How many people have been caught out by it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 That's outrageous! Are you sure? If so that deserves a thread of its own.... How many people have been caught out by it? Of course im sure, its me it happened to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullerboY Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 I think this thread has been misunderstood,the point I was making was why do people who when working would contemplate striking when either asked to do more hours for the same pay or to take less pay for for the same hours then when they retire do voluntary work for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I think this thread has been misunderstood,the point I was making was why do people who when working would contemplate striking when either asked to do more hours for the same pay or to take less pay for for the same hours then when they retire do voluntary work for nothing. I think the clue is in the word 'volunteer' in as much as people have a choice in doing this work. Having choices in life is very important to people. Being made to do something you don't want to do leads to resentment. I also think volunteers feel more appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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