danot Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 They are nice buildings to get married in (at least some of them are anyway). If there was a way to get married in a church without having a religious ceremony I would do so. As there is not I'm quite happy to play along to get what I want. Quite why you're bringing cretinism into it is beyond me. jb It's no different to the hypocrisy of religious people who don't practice what they preach. A church is a place of holy worship, it's a place which enables theists to gather together in the presence of their God. ......"Their God".. which many atheists claim there is no reason to invoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'm not Christened, and neither will my children be Christened when the stork finally decides to visit my wife and I. Did you have a church wedding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 It's no different to the hypocrisy of religious people who don't practice what they preach. A church is a place of holy worship, it's a place which enables theists to gather together in the presence of their God. ......"Their God".. which many atheists claim there is no reason to invoke. I don't care. If getting married in a church makes me a hypocrite for all of 30 minutes then I think I'll cope. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 It's no different to the hypocrisy of religious people who don't practice what they preach. A church is a place of holy worship, it's a place which enables theists to gather together in the presence of their God. Churches are also just nice pretty buildings with halls that have good atmosphere. How is it hypocritical for an atheist to take advantage of such a place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Churches are also just nice pretty buildings with halls that have good atmosphere. How is it hypocritical for an atheist to take advantage of such a place? If an atheist has to pretend to believe in order to have a church ceremony then by definition it makes them an hypocrite (for the duration of the ceremony and any pre-ceremony church visits/meetings with the vicar etc at least anyway)*. I can't see atheists losing sleep over it though. jb * I don't actually know if one has to do this to have a church ceremony or not. Maybe it's enough for just one of the couple to be a believer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Nope, the underlying significance of the day for me has pretty much always been chocolate. Hot cross buns, obviously. I'm discovering that the uncanny similarities between the theistic and atheistic style or arguing are quite quite refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamatron Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 This!! You were referring to children not knowing the meaning of the word "Atheist". You claim that their not knowing the meaning of the word doesn't necessarily mean they cannot be atheist. You were referring to children weren't you? what has that got to do with the tooth fairy:confused: did you quote the wrong post? My "claim" is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamatron Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 So it encompasses having no reason to consider the existence or none existence of God/s "often"... but not entirely. What else does it encompass then? again what are you talking about? I am an atheist which means I don't believe in any god. I have never considered whether there is a god because there is nothing to suggest there is one. Some atheists have considered it and came the conclusion there isn't one. easy peasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 If an atheist has to pretend to believe in order to have a church ceremony then by definition it makes them an hypocrite (for the duration of the ceremony and any pre-ceremony church visits/meetings with the vicar etc at least anyway)*. I can't see atheists losing sleep over it though. jb * I don't actually know if one has to do this to have a church ceremony or not. Maybe it's enough for just one of the couple to be a believer. That's exactly what happened with my parent's wedding. My dad was upfront with the vicar that he didn't believe and the vicar didn't mind. Good old church of England, thank god () they don't take their religion very seriously. I tend to agree though if my wife to be had wanted a church wedding and I had to pretend to be Christian in order to have it I'd have very little problem with that. I wouldn't have a problem lying to a vicar in order to make someone I love happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamatron Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 They're hypocrites.. that's what they are. or they might be people that like churches, some of them are pretty with nice architecture. Some of them had religious parents and some of them have been taught to think of getting married in a church from a very young age. Me I go, look at the pretty architecture, try to ignore the man waffling on and the hideous singing, usually I think a bit about how annoying religion is and how much money has been poured into the churches by poor people. Then the ceremony ends hurray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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