danot Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Nope, and they don't commemorate any of those dates anyway, that has been made up. They occur at the time of pre-existing celebrations. Pre-existing celebrations to commemorate what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 False dichotomy. Try again. jb Answer the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiphany Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Is that like strangling babies at birth to spare them the futility of their existence? jb Very good No It's more like accepting the futile nature of our ultimately meaningless existence, letting go of all faith (freeing one's mind, in other words), yet remaining intolerant of unnecessary suffering, mainly because of the empathy that comes from you yourself not wishing to suffer. So really, compassion is more an extension of the self, perhaps an evolutionary hangover from when we relied on others to "scratch our backs". Compassionate nihilism ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Is this another one of those 'Danot takes a relatively straightforward idea and gets it hopelessly wrapped around his neck' threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Pre-existing celebrations to commemorate what? The winter solstice and the coming of spring, why is it do you think that bunnies, eggs and chicks are the dominant iconography around easter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 atheists can believe whatever they want about thew beginning of the universe, as long as it doesn't involve any gods. Right. So to be atheist, the notion that the universe was created by God/s must be ruled out and never considered, but any other notion; no matter how ridiculous can be believed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Did you mean to say that the scientific theory is no more credible than the creationist theory? Really? Wow. You really are confused. I'm intrigued.. Well, there's a shedload of scientific evidence to explain the origins of everything we see around us - and bugger all evidence to support creationism. Quite straightforward really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Anyone who partakes in commemorating the dates which signify his birth, death and Resurrection do believe he was the son of God. Anyone that doesn't commemorate it obviously do not. Do you partake in it? False dichotomy. Try again. jb Answer the question! Your statement presents a false dichotomy as there are other possible scenarios. Still, I shall answer. No, I do not commemorate the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus. I do participate in the festival of chocolate eating which takes place over the double bank holiday over early spring. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Right. So to be atheist, the notion that the universe was created by God/s must be ruled out and never considered, but any other notion; no matter how ridiculous can be believed? Wrong, an atheist need not consider "the notion that the universe was created by God/s" but they are perfectly able to do so and be an atheist. What defines atheism is a lack of belief that gods actually exist, you can attain that state by never having considered gods in any way shape or form or after considering and rejecting the arguments put forward for god/s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Right. So to be atheist, the notion that the universe was created by God/s must be ruled out and never considered, but any other notion; no matter how ridiculous can be believed? No, to be an atheist one must simply lack belief in god. An atheist can consider that the universe was created by a super intelligent pan dimensional four sided triangle if they so desire, they however will not be taken seriously until they can present some evidence to back up their claims. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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