chem1st Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Just come across this and thought I'd share; The whole country is groaning under taxation. Industry is seriously hampered, the spirit of commercial adventure is scotched and the miasma of state control, state taxation and state dole descends on the community until effort is paralysed. This was present under the last Conservative administration and has been intesified today. Still the process will continue. And why not? The vote is with the young, the power is with the young. The dole is with the young also. Why work when even if unemployed you can get as much as if you did work. It bears many resemblance to the situation today, except for the fact that the vote, power and dole are not with the young, but with the elderly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanl Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I thought Dole was a more recent word than 1931 to be honest. Didn't they used to call it Relief? like as in 'going on't relief'. But there you go, I just checked and found this In the UK, Unemployment Benefit has been known by the slang term 'the dole' since WWI. This derives from the 'doling out', i.e. 'handing out' of charitable gifts of food or money. This dates back to at least 1919, when it was recorded in The Daily Mail: "You won't draw your out-of-work dole of 29s. this week." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Various forms of 'benefits' have been around in Britain for even longer. Arguably for 400 years, in some cases nearly 1000 years. Often introduced at times of the seizure of common lands. Which leaves us with little rhymes about our history that tell us more than most know of today; They hang the man, and flog the woman, That steals the goose from off the common; But let the greater villain loose, That steals the common from the goose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I thought Dole was a more recent word than 1931 to be honest. It's a very old word. The Wayfarer's Dole goes back to post-Norman times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanl Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Interesting... thanks.....just goes to show, you're never too old to learn. I honestly can't ever remember hearing it when I was growing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUFFEMS Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Interesting... thanks.....just goes to show, you're never too old to learn. I honestly can't ever remember hearing it when I was growing up. I agree that "dole" wasn't in common usage in newspaper articles in the 1930's, I wasn't alive then so I could be wrong. I recall in the 1960's it was called "national assistance"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I agree that "dole" wasn't in common usage in newspaper articles in the 1930's, I wasn't alive then so I could be wrong. I recall in the 1960's it was called "national assistance"? Novel from 1933; http://www.amazon.co.uk/Love-Dole-Walter-Greenwood/dp/009922481X/ref=pd_cp_d_h__1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoran Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I thought Dole was a more recent word than 1931 to be honest. Didn't they used to call it Relief? like as in 'going on't relief'. But there you go, I just checked and found this In the UK, Unemployment Benefit has been known by the slang term 'the dole' since WWI. This derives from the 'doling out', i.e. 'handing out' of charitable gifts of food or money. This dates back to at least 1919, when it was recorded in The Daily Mail: "You won't draw your out-of-work dole of 29s. this week." Tax or Hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Novel from 1933; http://www.amazon.co.uk/Love-Dole-Walter-Greenwood/dp/009922481X/ref=pd_cp_d_h__1 That's on my to-read list, somebody at the library has it out atm though. And that 'black diamonds' about the fitzwilliams, I'm waiting on a friend for a copy of that. Have you read it? (Either) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Just come across this and thought I'd share; It bears many resemblance to the situation today, except for the fact that the vote, power and dole are not with the young, but with the elderly. the elderly now were the young then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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