Speed Demon Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 ...or should that be global depressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampster Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 If you mean global recessions in general, then no they won't ever end.. not until we reach some Star Trek like utopia where we all exist for the betterment of the race instead of materialistic possesion. For that to happen though, I think we'll have to damn near wipe ourselves out.. even then I'm not so sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Demon Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Yes I meant global recessions in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 The economy always goes in cycles. It grows, then shrinks a bit, then grows, then shrinks a bit... ....the problem lies with politicians only being elected once every few years, not once every two decades. They have no choice but to think short-term, which means that in good times, all the money gets used up, either on tax cuts or increased spending; none of it gets put aside to help us through the inevitable bad times a few years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 The economy always goes in cycles. It grows, then shrinks a bit, then grows, then shrinks a bit... ....the problem lies with politicians only being elected once every few years, not once every two decades. They have no choice but to think short-term, which means that in good times, all the money gets used up, either on tax cuts or increased spending; none of it gets put aside to help us through the inevitable bad times a few years later. That's an excellent point.....However, This coalition government for 10 years?.....GULP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Demon Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Did you not already know the value of money is finished, the barter and capitalist system is dead. The only way they can pay off the debts is to create more debt by printing money and thus the circle keeps going round. Does not take a rocket science degree to know we need a new system without money and we need it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 That's an excellent point.....However, This coalition government for 10 years?.....GULP!!! There are enough good reasons that government should have to be re-elected every few years, to outweight the bad ones. Unfortunately, this is one of the bad ones. You could even argue that it's not the fault of the politicians, but the electorate. If a party said "we will not be cutting taxes until 2023 because we need to save up money to protect us against a future recession" they would very likely lose the election for admitting that there might be a future recession, or for not spending money now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Demon Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 There are enough good reasons that government should have to be re-elected every few years, to outweight the bad ones. Unfortunately, this is one of the bad ones. You could even argue that it's not the fault of the politicians, but the electorate. If a party said "we will not be cutting taxes until 2023 because we need to save up money to protect us against a future recession" they would very likely lose the election for admitting that there might be a future recession, or for not spending money now. People are thick, glad I never vote and am not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erebus Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Governments are just the puppets you see, who pretend to be able to influence events, but what you do not see is that they can't. Want to be a politician, then know how to lie, stick a knife in someone while smiling and chatting to them, in opther words the conscience of a psychopath. Ever bothered to ask the one question who gains? The politicians gain peanuts, compared to the profits of the corporate world. So you elect whoever, it does not matter as the money they play with has all been accounted for and restricted. The politicians in the USA and Europe have just decided to increase sanctions against Iran. Why, because they don't like Iran, and pretend they have a nuclear bomb on the production line, without any evidence at all. Meanwhile Israel, the flag bearer of peace not only has over 200 nukes but a thriving biological and chemical weapons industry. What has this got to do with our deepening economic depression? Well the new sanctions stop Europe buying any oil from Iran, till around July this year, to attempt to cripple the country, with money in banks frozen too. Oil WAS traded in US dollars, and now Iran is selling oil to Russia, China and India using gold bullion as well as their own currencies, thus circumventing the dollar. Iran does not need Europe, or the petro dollar. So how will it effect Europe, well Greece gets its oil from Iran, so that economy has no chance of recovery ever, and with that the UK finance Industry, that bunch of gangsters, find they have shot themselves in the foot, quickening Europe's decline as no one can now pay the debts in even the long run, ever. We will now have to pay more for oil, so that is food fuel, energy and the rest start to rise, and those sacked, the low paid will learn what going in debt to feed the children is all about. We are now locked into a slow spiral of economic disaster, where the pound and the dollar have sounded their death knell all by themselves. China, Russia, India and Iran do not need us, but we fooled ourselves they needed us. So maybe a war with Iran is on the cards for any excuse, to again grab the oil wealth we want to control. Welcome to the new world of debt servitude, where individuals are all in debt together with the country, and together we are all giving it to the banks, and the puppets, the politicians know they will be out of office and no longer responsible at the next farce of a democratic election. Anyone fancy learning poaching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Governments are just the puppets you see, who pretend to be able to influence events, but what you do not see is that they can't. Want to be a politician, then know how to lie, stick a knife in someone while smiling and chatting to them, in opther words the conscience of a psychopath. Ever bothered to ask the one question who gains? The politicians gain peanuts, compared to the profits of the corporate world. So you elect whoever, it does not matter as the money they play with has all been accounted for and restricted. The politicians in the USA and Europe have just decided to increase sanctions against Iran. Why, because they don't like Iran, and pretend they have a nuclear bomb on the production line, without any evidence at all. Meanwhile Israel, the flag bearer of peace not only has over 200 nukes but a thriving biological and chemical weapons industry. What has this got to do with our deepening economic depression? Well the new sanctions stop Europe buying any oil from Iran, till around July this year, to attempt to cripple the country, with money in banks frozen too. Oil WAS traded in US dollars, and now Iran is selling oil to Russia, China and India using gold bullion as well as their own currencies, thus circumventing the dollar. Iran does not need Europe, or the petro dollar. So how will it effect Europe, well Greece gets its oil from Iran, so that economy has no chance of recovery ever, and with that the UK finance Industry, that bunch of gangsters, find they have shot themselves in the foot, quickening Europe's decline as no one can now pay the debts in even the long run, ever. We will now have to pay more for oil, so that is food fuel, energy and the rest start to rise, and those sacked, the low paid will learn what going in debt to feed the children is all about. We are now locked into a slow spiral of economic disaster, where the pound and the dollar have sounded their death knell all by themselves. China, Russia, India and Iran do not need us, but we fooled ourselves they needed us. So maybe a war with Iran is on the cards for any excuse, to again grab the oil wealth we want to control. Welcome to the new world of debt servitude, where individuals are all in debt together with the country, and together we are all giving it to the banks, and the puppets, the politicians know they will be out of office and no longer responsible at the next farce of a democratic election. Anyone fancy learning poaching? My my, your cheery today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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