Halibut Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 But if God exists the path you are going to take is predetermined and can't be changed. Nonsense. There are plenty of theologies that allow freedom of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gormenghast Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Nonsense. There are plenty of theologies that allow freedom of choice. Name them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 In creating you did he not create the path? For God to be all knowing it would need to know what everyone’s path is, and because the path is known it can’t be changed, therefore you don’t have the will to do as you please you can only follow the path that is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Nonsense. There are plenty of theologies that allow freedom of choice. They all claim to have free will, but they also claim God is all knowing and knows everything. The two things contradict each other, they can't both be true. Either an all knowing God exists and we don't have free will or we have free will and an all knowing God doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 For God to be all knowing it would need to know what everyone’s path is, and because the path is known it can’t be changed, therefore you don’t have the will to do as you please you can only follow the path that is known. Causes a bit of a conundrum doesn't it when when theists suggest they are free to think for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 They all claim to have free will, but they also claim God is all knowing and knows everything. The two things contradict each other, they can't both be true. Either an all knowing God exists and we don't have free will or we have free will and an all knowing God doesn't exist. Of course they can both be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muldoon Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Of course they can both be true. Prove it then Mr Halibut xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Prove it then Mr Halibut xx I don't need to. It's self evidently true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gormenghast Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Name them. Ahem. No reply then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wornout53 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 The God you are portraying would not then plan a path for anyone which included sin therefore giving us a perfect world. Yes God has a path laid out for us but we choose whether or not to follow it. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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