911wasalie Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 A few years ago I read about a bloke running his car on Hydrogen so I built a hydrogen generator which is simply two coils of stainless steel wire in a bottle of water and connect one wire to the neg. terminal and the other to pos. of a lead acid battery or any low voltage D.C. source and the water will start bubbling. The large bubbles are Hydrogen the small ones Oxygen. I kicked the preject into touch because of more urgent ones but I've now started looking into the project. Anybody know anything about it. I was told the Hydrogen affects the aluminium in the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregconn Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I have always remember a story I heard in the 1960's, that a system of running cars on water had been developed but the system was bought by one of the big oil company's and destroyed. Not sure whether I had read this or was told about it. It would be very useful in these days of high fuel cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 If sure given the incentive (like oil running out) they could develop engines that ran on water, or even fresh air. I'm pretty sure someone somewhere has already done it. But because of oil and motor manufacturers 'vested' interests (and govenments acually via taxation) they've never been allowed to surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregconn Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I am sure that you are right (petemorris), it is all about money, the amount invested and generated by the sale of oil must by mind-blowing, let us hope that it is not left to late before coming up with a viable alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 A few years ago I read about a bloke running his car on Hydrogen so I built a hydrogen generator which is simply two coils of stainless steel wire in a bottle of water and connect one wire to the neg. terminal and the other to pos. of a lead acid battery or any low voltage D.C. source and the water will start bubbling. The large bubbles are Hydrogen the small ones Oxygen. I kicked the preject into touch because of more urgent ones but I've now started looking into the project. Anybody know anything about it. I was told the Hydrogen affects the aluminium in the engine. How are you going to capture the hydrogen and put it into the car? In commercial use it's cryogenically chilled and compressed and then stored in very complex fuel tanks that can store a large amount of it without requiring high pressure and low temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 If sure given the incentive (like oil running out) they could develop engines that ran on water, or even fresh air. I'm pretty sure someone somewhere has already done it. But because of oil and motor manufacturers 'vested' interests (and govenments acually via taxation) they've never been allowed to surface. Don't be ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Don't be ridiculous. Why ridiculous? How would you know? Just because you don't know of anything like it, it doesn't mean it's not possible! Imagine someone inventing an engine that can run on fresh air! All that revenue and taxation gone in a flash! Think about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Ridiculous because to run an engine of some kind you need a release of energy and water is a low energy state for hydrogen and oxygen. There's a reason it's everywhere and a reason it doesn't explode when a spark lands in it. It's got no more energy to release by converting to another form. I'd know because I have a basic level of education. Imagine that your car was towed by unicorns who didn't need to eat and could grant you wishes. Just because you can imagine it doesn't mean it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Ridiculous because to run an engine of some kind you need a release of energy and water is a low energy state for hydrogen and oxygen. There's a reason it's everywhere and a reason it doesn't explode when a spark lands in it. It's got no more energy to release by converting to another form. I'd know because I have a basic level of education. Imagine that your car was towed by unicorns who didn't need to eat and could grant you wishes. Just because you can imagine it doesn't mean it's possible. All hail the master who knows all. I bow to your obviously superior intellect!!!! Oh and keep your personal insults to yourself!!!!!! :rant: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medusa Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Surely the energy costs of separating the hydrogen and oxygen (from being in such a stable molecule as water) and then separating the gasses and storing them in order for them to be used again will outweigh the energy gained by allowing them to become water again, which is what in effect burning the hydrogen does? It's one thing taking a tank of hydrogen and running a car on it and another completely trying to include the hydrogen generating machinery within the car to separate the hydrogen out from water all within the same system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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