MrMoran Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Why is this classed as a 'hate crime' instead of a 'racist attack' ? This ties in with a topic already running about racism, but as I want to get to the bottom of this particular question on its own merit I though it better to ask it directly in its own topic. Why if you are white and attack someone of colour do you have the stigma of 'racist attached to your crime but, as in this instance and the Somalian girls that beat the white girl, if its the other way round its just classed as hate ? The Somalian girls in my opinion got off scott free because of the lack of mention about it being racial, so this is an issue worth debating. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4112153/17-year-old-boy-Dan-Stringer-battered-by-Asian-hate-mob-in-Manchester.html Its sad what happened to that young lad but you seem to be using it to further your agenda. You dont like brown skins, we get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard2miss Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 This thread is based upon a misconception, a racist attack is a variety of hate crime. All racist attacks are hate crimes but not all hate crimes are racially motivated. A hate crime could also be motivated by: religious bigotry - eg. protestant on catholic or vice versa homophobia - eg. 'gay bashing' transphobia and so forth. Thank you, I knew that hate crime covered all sorts like homophobia ect, so what your saying is its early days yet and the reason the term racial attack has not been mentioned is due to it not been ascertained if that was the case or not yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famillyguy Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 No it wouldn't. It could quite as easily be motivated by the football shirt the victim was wearing, or the high heels. jb whatever the motivation, the intension was murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoran Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 AFAIK a racist attack is a type of hate crime. In this particular case, if The Sun is to be believed, there were no indications that the attack was motivated by race. jb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime Its the Sun, how accurate is it going to be? 80% at best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMoran Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 whatever the motivation, the intension was murder. You dont know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard2miss Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Its sad what happened to that young lad but you seem to be using it to further your agenda. You dont like brown skins, we get it. I am brown. But I forgive the assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 The Guardian & other sources are reporting similar words from the police. However, it's to be expected, they would say that if asked to comment shortly after arresting anybody for any racist attack. I think the law is against 'hate crime' & that's what they'll be charged with, like any other racist attacker. Maybe he was attacked based on religion (or lack of), or something else. At this early stage in investigations police have to keep their options open, especially as it is reported that no racist abuse was heard. The police do appear to on occasions say they are treating an attack as racially motivated. Greater Manchester Police confirmed the attack at 7pm on October 19 was being treated as a racially motivated incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famillyguy Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 You dont know that. yes i do know that:rant: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 yes i do know that:rant: Why, was it you? jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 No it wouldn't. It could quite as easily be motivated by the football shirt the victim was wearing, or the high heels. jb I'll give you that one but I'm sure you know what point I was trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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