southcoast Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Thankgod these people were caught and jailed,they could have caused carnage had they got to carry out their plot. It appears that the muslim fanatics have plenty more who are willing to die for Jihad,this country and the west are paying a heavy price for mass immigration and the failed multi culturalism. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16968518 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'd agree, there is a nutty element amongst them but the vast majority are just ordinary people like the rest of us...I don't know where it will all end.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurian Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I really do not understand why the ordinary muslims allow them to do this. They cause backlashes that affect all muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cressida Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Quote southcoast: It appears that the muslim fanatics have plenty more who are willing to die for Jihad,this country and the west are paying a heavy price for mass immigration and the failed multi culturalism. Yet these fanatics prefer to live here than in a Muslim country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I really do not understand why the ordinary muslims allow them to do this. They cause backlashes that affect all muslims. That's true, I think there's a them and us attitude and many would not help the authorities because it would bring shame..IMO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I really do not understand why the ordinary muslims allow them to do this. They cause backlashes that affect all muslims. Ordinary muslims didn't allow them to do this anymore than you and I 'allowed' David Copeland to bomb Soho pubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I really do not understand why the ordinary muslims allow them to do this. They cause backlashes that affect all muslims. Whenever a white Christian commits a murder, rape or robbery do you blame yourself? Are all Catholics responsible for paedophile priests? Are all parents responsible for the death of Baby Peter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurian Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 That's true, I think there's a them and us attitude and many would not help the authorities because it would bring shame..IMO.. That is very probably the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 3 IPP's isn't bad by recent standards but I really don't understand why IPP is not default for terrorists given the determining factor in the raw sentance number isn't the crime plotted it's at what point the police/security service swoop. Given that the police clearly can't wait for complete proof, ie let them blow up what they are plotting to attack, it does seem we're tying the polices hands and consuming huge resources as mentioned in the article. Surely in the context of the very real global islamist terrorist threat if the police can make a solid case that their was genuine interest in carrying out a terrorist attack then IPP should be automatic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstorm48 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Thankgod these people were caught and jailed,they could have caused carnage had they got to carry out their plot. It appears that the muslim fanatics have plenty more who are willing to die for Jihad,this country and the west are paying a heavy price for mass immigration and the failed multi culturalism. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16968518 A high price indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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