alchresearch Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The history of America and its involvement in world affairs is a very interesting one. Is it because they turned up late to two world wars on the winning side that they decided to become the world police? Or is it down to oil and other natural resources that the country they're "helping" has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertramp Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The history of America and its involvement in world affairs is a very interesting one. Is it because they turned up late to two world wars on the winning side that they decided to become the world police? Or is it down to oil and other natural resources that the country they're "helping" has? The latter, and the educated population of America (well the ones I have worked with or met) are fine with this and see it as a perfectly valid reason to invade and massacre. The reasons given to the public are mainly to keep the rest of the population happy. I did try to counter this point with one of them by comparing it with an armed robbery but it didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Maybe it is because their track record on the Israel/Palestine issue has left them wide open to the charge that they aren't really motivated by the best interests of Muslims in the Middle East. Consequently, anything they do there is always going to be viewed with suspicion. It has nothing to do with the Israel/Palestine issue. Muslims have hated the West and everyone else before that matter, even before Israel was created. Of course media, especially the Internet, has given people the chance to voice their opinions and influencing public opinion is all that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkey Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 It has nothing to do with the Israel/Palestine issue. Muslims have hated the West and everyone else before that matter, even before Israel was created. Of course media, especially the Internet, has given people the chance to voice their opinions and influencing public opinion is all that counts. Yes, you've decided that and wrote it down. What more proof could anyone need? They hated us so much they allowed non Muslims to rule most the Muslim world for about two centuries, without any major rebellions. Their hatred was so great, they just couldn't get organised. What gets me most is the pure ingratitude. After everything we've done for them! (I can't think of anything specific at the moment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 They do seem to get a bad press by left leaning people who highlight their failings. An example: In 1953 the US staged a coup d'état in Iran, removing the democratically elected government and installing the Shah of Iran (himself deposed in 1979 by the revolution led by Ayatollah Khomeini). Now for more than five decades the CIA and the US denied any involvement. "We don't undermine democratically elected regimes, who do you think we are? We're the good guys". Well, finally, in 2009: Obama admits US involvement in 1953 Iran coup US President Barack Obama made a major gesture of conciliation to Iran on Thursday when he admitted US involvement in the 1953 coup which overthrew the government of Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh. "In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role in the overthrow of a democratically elected Iranian government," Obama said in a keynote speech to the Muslim world in Cairo. It was the first time a serving US president had publicly admitted American involvement in the coup. The US Central Intelligence Agency, with British backing, masterminded the coup after Mossadegh nationalised the oil industry, run until then by the British-owned Anglo-Iranian Oil Company. For many Iranians, the coup demonstrated duplicity by the United States, which presented itself as a defender of freedom but did not hesitate to use underhand methods to get rid of a democratically elected government to suit its own economic and strategic interests. LINK Well, well, well. And people wonder why they don't like us in the Middle-East? Especially when the Vice-President says: Biden: Mubarak not a dictator Well, of course not. He'd only been in power for 30 years without any elections and his forces carried out torture, rape and murder. Hardly grounds for calling the man a dictator. The American people genuinely love freedom, I truly believe that. The actions of their government on the other hand... If only life and politics and morality really were as black and white as it is in a John Wayne film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I'm a fan of American wrestling, and obviously according to 80% of this forum I'm a Microsoft fanboy, who are a US company, I just hate US International politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anywebsite Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 In all fairness to America, the only people with blood on their hands are the Chinese and Russians. They are the ones who vetoed UN sanctions. Never heard of Palestine or Isreal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstorm48 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Maybe it is because their track record on the Israel/Palestine issue has left them wide open to the charge that they aren't really motivated by the best interests of Muslims in the Middle East. Consequently, anything they do there is always going to be viewed with suspicion. Islam is the enemy of Muslims not America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Sidney Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 Islam is the enemy of Muslims not America. That's very profound Jack. I aint heard that one before.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Well that's good. Being right is a kind of habit, so keep up the good work.. I have work to do on another thread, that i foolishly got involved in. I am needing some support,but i doubt wether you would be the right one to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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