Agent Orange Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Your reasoning is staggering. Birds of the same feather, what tosh. Why don't you read up on the subject, taking care not to read the conspiracy websites. You will be amazed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatwhat Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Why don't you read up on the subject, taking care not to read the conspiracy websites. You will be amazed I have read up on the subject. It still comes back to the final assault, where its very clear mass murder was the aim. The buildings are On fire full of kids and the ATF backed up with tanks pumping in CS gas, ' which becomes cyanide in a fire' are firing into the buildings. How could anyone be expected to escape? Mass murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I have read up on the subject. It still comes back to the final assault, where its very clear mass murder was the aim. The buildings are On fire full of kids and the ATF backed up with tanks pumping in CS gas, ' which becomes cyanide in a fire' are firing into the buildings. How could anyone be expected to escape? Mass murder. Why would they go to the trouble of pumping the place with cs gas when they could have just shot the occupants? It was a blundered raid, end of. There was no conspiracy to murder the occupants to further funding or anything else. It was a series of events that got out of control. Nothing more, nothing less. If you insist the state were hellbent on murder... how come the survivors are still alive? Why did they negotiate for a surrender and more importantly, why did they secure the release of a dozen occupants (children)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatwhat Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Why would they go to the trouble of pumping the place with cs gas when they could have just shot the occupants? It was a blundered raid, end of. There was no conspiracy to murder the occupants to further funding or anything else. It was a series of events that got out of control. Nothing more, nothing less. If you insist the state were hellbent on murder... how come the survivors are still alive? Why did they negotiate for a surrender and more importantly, why did they secure the release of a dozen occupants (children)? They gassed them, demolishing the farm as they went, when the buildings were on fire and automatic weapons kept the people in the ruins, as the CS gas became cyanide. What other result could have been expected? The farm was surrounded, no escape possible, no threat to anyone. All the ATF had to do is talk them out/starve them out. The aim was to kill them. Utter mass murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 They gassed them, demolishing the farm as they went, when the buildings were on fire and automatic weapons kept the people in the ruins, as the CS gas became cyanide. What other result could have been expected? The farm was surrounded, no escape possible, no threat to anyone. All the ATF had to do is talk them out/starve them out. The aim was to kill them. Utter mass murder. No it was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatwhat Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 No it was not. Sure mate, do not let the facts, wittinesses, or results get in the way of your conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Sure mate, do not let the facts, wittinesses, or results get in the way of your conclusion. It seems you are blissfully ignorant of your own advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble3082 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Didn't the surveilance tape show the Davidians planning to set fire to the place, with numerous reference to "spreading the fuel"? Didn't video show that the lantern being knocked over by FBI tanks (which the Davidians claim started the fire) happened a full 1.5 mins BEFORE the first ignitian? Didn't a fire panel conclude that the fire was started in 3 places by the Davidians as they had fuel on their clothes? Didn't the Davidians also have gas masks to protect them from fumes, capable of lasting 48 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble3082 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 ....but don't let the facts get in the way of your conclusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 ....but don't let the facts get in the way of your conclusion But it was murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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