Bubble3082 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 But it was murder Sorry, of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatwhat Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Didn't the surveilance tape show the Davidians planning to set fire to the place, with numerous reference to "spreading the fuel"? Didn't video show that the lantern being knocked over by FBI tanks (which the Davidians claim started the fire) happened a full 1.5 mins BEFORE the first ignitian? Didn't a fire panel conclude that the fire was started in 3 places by the Davidians as they had fuel on their clothes? Didn't the Davidians also have gas masks to protect them from fumes, capable of lasting 48 hours? Fire, whoever started it, is unclear. What is clear is the ATF knew fire would be a result of a breech. Gas masks. They had some, none that fitted the kids, and cyanide eats through the filter in less than 5 min. The ATF knew this So gassed, burned, and shot. Murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Fire, whoever started it, is unclear. What is clear is the ATF knew fire would be a result of a breech. Gas masks. They had some, none that fitted the kids, and cyanide eats through the filter in less than 5 min. The ATF knew this So gassed, burned, and shot. Murder. Back up your claim about the effects of cyanide on respirators/gas masks. Who shot the people inside the building? It is claimed that 20 or so people were found inside, having died from gunshot wounds. Let me guess, it was murder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble3082 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Fire, whoever started it, is unclear. What is clear is the ATF new fire would be a result of a breech. The Davidians were HEARD plotting a fire and had FUEL on their clothes (the survivors). The medical examiner concluded that causes of death were nothing to do with CS gas - just CO from the fire. True the gas masks were only for the adults, so why not release all kids at the same time unless motive was a kind of mass suicide involving kids to increase martydom (sp?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble3082 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Also an unidentified man was seen waving a white flag, and was advised that if he wished to surrender he should come out. If the intention was murder, wouldn't he be shot on sight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Back up your claim about the effects of cyanide on respirators/gas masks. Whatwhat needs to back up the claim that the CS gas turned to cyanide at all before moving onto that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatwhat Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 The Davidians were HEARD plotting a fire and had FUEL on their clothes (the survivors). The medical examiner concluded that causes of death were nothing to do with CS gas - just CO from the fire. True the gas masks were only for the adults, so why not release all kids at the same time unless motive was a kind of mass suicide involving kids to increase martydom (sp?) Why breech? Why not wait? They were on the brink of coming out. Have you seen how the ATF were acting outside? Exposing themselves etc? The ones that did leave were paraded to the press in chains, 70 year olds with feet chained. The ATF had such a lack of discipline it was like a good old boys BBQ. Nothing to do with CS gas! Did you see the bodies? CS gas become cyanide in fire, death by cyanide causes the muscle to contract so much it breaks bones. So did they breech to stop a mass suicide? If so why no escape route for the davidians? The aim was to kill them all, via gas, guns, fire, and demolition. Any idiot can see this. The results say it all. Utterly barbaric mass murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Nothing to do with CS gas! Did you see the bodies? CS gas become cyanide in fire Evidence please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 They were on the brink of coming out. Have you seen how the ATF were acting outside? Exposing themselves etc? In all fairness, if someone was exposing themself to me, I think I wouldn't have come out either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble3082 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 There was an escape route via the holes punched in the walls - punched SPECIFICALLY for them to escape. How were they on the brink of coming out? The man I mentioned before (who you haven't commented on) was given the chance to surrender, but went BACK IN. Yes, I have seen a 6 year old boys body, who was covered in soot and burns. The broken bones could easily have come from the rubble and collapsing of the building during the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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