Whatwhat Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 It seems you know for sure So, you think it's acceptable that they fired upon law enforcement officers? In self defense yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Many seem to be debating this as if one side was absolutely in the right and one was absolutely in the wrong. Absolutely not the case. Personally, I don't care. I just want Whatwhat to provide his evidence. Don't think it's going to happen. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 In self defense yes! Even if that point were to be conceded (which it hasn't), then why did they not just give themselves up after the cease fire? After all there was a media presence so they could hardly all just be executed in a fund raising fit could they. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatwhat Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Many seem to be debating this as if one side was absolutely in the right and one was absolutely in the wrong. Absolutely not the case. True, but the state used a hammer to crack a nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 They new about the raid just before it happened. If your a gun dealer you keep your guns secure. If I was a gun dealer, I would secure my weapons by storing them in a safe or strong room, not by shooting anyone who tried to enter my home. In self defense yes! So, if the police fired at you, would you think it was wise to fire back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Motive 1, to get more funding for the ATF. 2, to slap down one of the vast numbers of this type of religious sect. 1) What was the ATF funding before and after the event? In what way was the ATF funding before the event inadequate? Who would benefit from increased funding to the ATF? 2) Circular reasoning. Try again. jb You still haven't answer this. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatwhat Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Even if that point were to be conceded (which it hasn't), then why did they not just give themselves up after the cease fire? After all there was a media presence so they could hardly all just be executed in a fund raising fit could they. jb They were about to surrender, when they were killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 They were about to surrender, when they were killed. Evidence or STFU. Also, why wait 50 days to surrender? Doube also, you still haven't answered post 66. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncocker Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Why attack that compound? The situation was contained. Why send tanks in? In attacking the compound in this manner they were bound to kill everyone. Why? They could have starved them out. Why from the outset was this mass slaughter intended? speaking of mass slaughter ,remember jones town the authorities held back there did'nt they:D......900 dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatwhat Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Evidence or STFU. Also, why wait 50 days to surrender? Doube also, you still haven't answered post 66. jb Evidence, I've provided it. Why wait 50 days? Who cares why? Pointless responding any further to 66 Why kill all those people? Answer, that was the intension. Why did they intend to kill everyone? to send a message to all the other religious sects that the state rules? The evidence is in the tactics used and all the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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