Mister M Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Try this: I know a B&B owner in south west Wales who struggles to get by on a very short season. She's very good and has a lovely house but it's in a remote area. Under various rules about disabled access she was forced to pay about £5000 to get her establishment up to code to comply with all the rules and regulations. In her 20 years at the B&B she has never had a single enquiry from a disabled person. Under the law if she hadn't spent the money she would have had her meagre livelihood taken away. How is that fair on her? That is not preferential treatment, that is a case where the rules put in place for minorities disdvantage ordinary businesses. How many B&Bs have had to do the same? It's all out of proportion to the needs of the disabled. Nobody is arguing that the disabled should have access to places they need to go regularly. As usual there is no balance. You can look at the row over Gay marriage and the church to see them pushing the boundaries even further. Pushing the boundaries even further, how dare they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Is there any chance at all that this thread could be used to discuss the pros and cons of the era 1997 - 2010 instead of raking up the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 You shound like all the other tory bigots. Thatcher ruined the UK I've never voted Tory. If you can read you'll see I used to vote Labour. I want someone to give me a convincing argument to do so again. Inaccurate complaining about the Tories isn't a convincing argument for supporting Labour. Perhaps one reason I no longer support Labour is exactly because they create and then pander to some very stupid people. Thatcher rescued the UK but the left will never see it that way. You shound like Sean Connery!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 No, the militant unions and left wing mindset ruined British industry, Thatcher put a much-needed stop to union power. If Thatcher ruined the UK, how come Labour inherited such a booming economy? (which they destroyed). And for goodness' sake, how was his post bigoted?? The economy wasn't booming it was busting, as it does towards the end of every decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Pushing the boundaries even further, how dare they? I knew you would ignore my constructive observation and concentrate on that. Bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 The economy wasn't booming it was busting, as it does towards the end of every decade. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Is there any chance at all that this thread could be used to discuss the pros and cons of the era 1997 - 2010 instead of raking up the past? It's that Selective Socialist Amnesia problem again. Some people have big gaps in their memory where Labour failures are concerned but they can misremember every single thing the Tories ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I knew you would ignore my constructive observation and concentrate on that. Bye Bye.... What constructive observation? Perhaps if you had have been more constructive you might have noticed that since the introduction of the Disability Discrimination Act back in 1995 it has been unlawful for service providers to treat disabled people less favourably for a reason related to their disability, and can further take part in civic society. And you can tell your B&B owner friend in Wales who is £5000 out of pocket, that she has John Major's government to thank as it was his Government that first introduced the law back in 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I've never voted Tory. If you can read you'll see I used to vote Labour. I want someone to give me a convincing argument to do so again. Inaccurate complaining about the Tories isn't a convincing argument for supporting Labour. Perhaps one reason I no longer support Labour is exactly because they create and then pander to some very stupid people. Thatcher rescued the UK but the left will never see it that way. You shound like Sean Connery!! Yeah, pull the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Its not a case of what or who leads the party or what they did or did not do,the basic polices what the party stands for is what you support through thick or thin and the two party's represent two completely different agendas and people,granted they all make mistakes from time to time but they should represent the people who vote for them I dont class my self as a toff or rich business man I am just a working man trying to get on as I see it conservatives don't help the working class at all if I was a rich business man I would probably want to vote the conservatives in so I can get away with some tax and salt some money away in an off shore account, every thing that has been done to better the working class has been done for us by the Labour party ,the Labour party make a lot of mistakes and they do tend to let the unions run the show to much but if it was not for the unions we would be working under Victorian style mismanagement with no rights at all back to Bob Cratchit days, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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