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Don't know, don't care, I'm not a member, that doesn't stop me being in favour of a secular society.

 

Which is completely irrelevant to the argument being made by secularists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

 

It has been said that Britain is "culturally Christian" rather than overtly, or "properly" Christian, and I think thats about right, those that dont attend church(which is of course most people) know that Christian values broadly reflect their own; its not at the forefront of anyones mind, but most people are content to refer to Britain as a Christian country.

 

The NSS need to point me to the masses that are outraged that Britain is a Christian country, because I dont see them!

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It has been said that Britain is "culturally Christian" rather than overtly, or "properly" Christian, and I think thats about right, those that dont attend church(which is of course most people) know that Christian values broadly reflect their own

 

"Christian values" derive from the Hammurabic Code of Law, and probably from other earlier codes of law that we don't now know about. It's therefore extremely likely that they would broadly reflect the values of the vast majority of the world!

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It has been said that Britain is "culturally Christian" rather than overtly, or "properly" Christian, and I think thats about right, those that dont attend church(which is of course most people) know that Christian values broadly reflect their own; its not at the forefront of anyones mind, but most people are content to refer to Britain as a Christian country.

 

The NSS need to point me to the masses that are outraged that Britain is a Christian country, because I dont see them!

 

Could you perhaps give me an example of xtian values that somehow differ from non xtian values?

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If you are a Catholic you should be grateful that you live in a mainly secular country, if you are a Muslim you should be grateful that you live in a mainly secular country. Ditto for every religious person who is not CofE.

 

Former Archbishop Cormac Murphy-O'Connor and Baroness Warsi are idiots for not recognising this, since they have been vocal in moaning about "militant secularism".

 

Secularism protects religious freedoms.

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It has been said that Britain is "culturally Christian" rather than overtly, or "properly" Christian, and I think thats about right, those that dont attend church(which is of course most people) know that Christian values broadly reflect their own; its not at the forefront of anyones mind, but most people are content to refer to Britain as a Christian country.

 

The NSS need to point me to the masses that are outraged that Britain is a Christian country, because I dont see them!

 

I'm not outraged that Britain is classed as a Christian country, I just don't think the religious should have special privelage, the point of this thread is to try and ascertain what secularists as individuals think is acceptable and not acceptable as far as normal religious behaviour goes, at what point does the 'right to practice' become a form of privelage.

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If you are a Catholic you should be grateful that you live in a mainly secular country, if you are a Muslim you should be grateful that you live in a mainly secular country. Ditto for every religious person who is not CofE.

 

Former Archbishop Cormac Murphy-O'Connor and Baroness Warsi are idiots for not recognising this, since they have been vocal in moaning about "militant secularism".

 

Secularism protects religious freedoms.

 

Minority religions thrive very well indeed in Christian countries, they certernly have in Britain; tell me, how do religion's fair in China??

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I'm not outraged that Britain is classed as a Christian country, I just don't think the religious should have special privelage, the point of this thread is to try and ascertain what secularists as individuals think is acceptable and not acceptable as far as normal religious behaviour goes, at what point does the 'right to practice' become a form of privelage.

 

Abortions are legal, and alcoholism, gambling and pornography are rife; some "privelage" Christianity has in public life in Britain :roll:

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Abortions are legal, and alcoholism, gambling and pornography are rife; some "privelage" Christianity has in public life in Britain :roll:

 

You're confusing moral behavior and privelage, I'm religious and do not drink, gamble or partake of porn, but I do object to people being allowed to do things because they claim they are exempt from the behavior that other people have to adhere to based on religion.

 

Incedentally I'm referring to all religions, not just Christians.

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