Meditation MEGATHREAD

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Richard

 

There are many skins society and religion create to even make religion something competitive and an item of desire. Even buddhism does that, in a rather comical way sometimes.

 

Only few individuals take advantage to let religiousness become another experience, not religion but the ability to see religion with clear eyes, uninfested with rules and regulations.

Meditation can bring the road to that individual freedom to anyone whom wants it again, few people allow to let meditation take them back to that freedom.

 

Most people will stay asleep with the protection of the crowd and use many things for protection, even things they call meditation.

 

I have never met you richard and am surprised you are writing a chapter out of fear of a simple chat with someone, you don't even know my name.

Issues, concerns, worries, concepts, all slowly disapear when meditation starts growing.

 

Meditation is the art of silence. It has been traded on the marketplace more often than it has been found by a master.

[PaliRichard]

I am still using the method as first taught to me by yourself (counting one to ten) I now meditate when I have a spare moment outside. Like waiting in the queue at The Yokshire Bank this morning for 20 mins. !!!:rant: (it kept me calm)

 

How wonderful!

 

Bringing concentration to the mind does have a rather wonderful way of allowing emotions that would otherwise wash over us just 'fade away'.

 

I am glad you are finding it benefitial. As many on here have said previously, the more you do it, the more benefit you will get! It is good to see that in action.

 

[pattricia]

How wonderful!

 

Bringing concentration to the mind does have a rather wonderful way of allowing emotions that would otherwise wash over us just 'fade away'.

 

I am glad you are finding it benefitial. As many on here have said previously, the more you do it, the more benefit you will get! It is good to see that in action.

 

 

Things can only get better.

[Mrs Overall]

I'm asking this as I've started meditating, don't get me wrong I am feeling that I'm benefiting from it..

But I don't feel much different doing this to using relaxation techniques, or am I doing something wrong..

[PaliRichard]

I'm asking this as I've started meditating, don't get me wrong I am feeling that I'm benefiting from it..

But I don't feel much different doing this to using relaxation techniques, or am I doing something wrong..

 

There are lots of different types of 'meditation', and it's the context or external influence you put on the 'method' that sometimes harvests the results.

 

The simple act of following the breath, other than maybe increading concenttation, is not overly different to relaxation techniques.

[Mrs Overall]

There are lots of different types of 'meditation', and it's the context or external influence you put on the 'method' that sometimes harvests the results.

 

The simple act of following the breath, other than maybe increading concenttation, is not overly different to relaxation techniques.

 

Thank you..

[PaliRichard]

Thank you..

 

Not a problem. That's why the first thing I always ask people who come to me for meditation advice is 'What do you want to get out it?'

For the majority of people, those who want more focus and a less 'scatty' mind, the awareness of breath 'method' is ideal. And the more it is practiced the greater the results (I always liken it to going to the gym and bodybuilding, the benefits grow while doing it, but if you stop so will the benefits).

[Rupert_Baehr]

From the link you quoted:

 

"Rachel holds a BA(econ) in Psychology (Sheffield University), and David an MSc in Health & Social Care (Sheffield Hallam University). They have been, and still are, involved in carrying out randomised controlled trials investigating the effects and benefits of Tai Chi practice."

 

Wonderful!

 

Rupert has a Masters' in Business Administration and a degree in Law.

 

Which of Rupert's degrees qualifies him to practice medicine?

 

Which of the degrees held by the people in your link qualifies them to practice medicine?

 

I'm a bit older now than I was 60 odd years ago, I've developed one or two medical problems during that time - and (because I've been living in my body for all of my life) I'm fairly familiar with them.

 

The healthcare system I use differs from the NHS in a number of ways:

 

I have a 'primary healthcare provider' - he's the guy I go to first. He deals with routine problems. I told him I needed to see a cardiologist - and was given a referral.

 

I told him I needed to see an endocrinologist - and was given a referral.

 

I had another problem, went to A&E and was admitted.

 

2 weeks later, my left leg was paralysed, I went to A&E and was admitted.

 

It's been a difficult few months.

 

I saw Jim (my primary care provider) - [who is a PA, not a doctor - but he's better than a doctor because he knows his limits ... and as a family practitioner, he's got more experience than many people I know]

 

He asked "What did your Cardio say?" I told him and he said "Sounds good, go for it!"

 

"What did the Endo say?" I told him and he said "Go for it"

 

Then he said: "I'm here to oversee your health care. You're hypertensive and I'm happy to prescribe for that, but you have top-class specialists looking after your diabetes, cardiological and other problems. We can talk about it, but you should listen to them."

 

Suits me. I'm not a doctor. (I do know a great deal about diabetes... it pays me to know and I discuss my treatment in great depth with the endocrinologist.)

 

My cardiologist says "It's OK, but you're getting old ... You will probably be too tired to go hiking in the mountains this year." I replied: "That's your opinion."

 

I listen to doctors - and then I do my own thing.

 

There can be no doubt that the NHS is a wonderful thing.

 

I've read (in other posts on this forum) comments (not complaints) that people are suffering from inoperable/incurable problems.

 

Perhaps. The NHS may be unable to carry out those procedures, but that may not be the case elsewhere.

 

'Meditation' (and I would use the word 'trance') certainly works. But do be careful. Find a good practitioner.

[PaliRichard]

Rupert

 

I'm not sure if you're admonishing me for my post or thanking me!

 

I'm not 'recommending' the people in the link (I've never met them), I merely thought it may be useful to you!

[pattricia]

The Daily Mail today has a double page spread on simple meditation. It draws funny cartoon like drawings from one to sixteen , and seems very helpful.