Harleyman Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Len McCluskey is calling for civil disobedience during the Olympics. by Should he be locked up for incitement? Or should we all be able to enjoy once in a lifetime UK Olympics without a well paid union official dictating to us? You seriously blotted your copybook here. What would the rest of the world think of a country with it's great and historical traditions of human rights and freedoms throwing someone in jail for uttering something about "civil dsbedience" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 But Emily Davidon's action was completely fruitless. The Suffragette movement achieved precisely nothing during the entirety of its existence; votes for women can only after, and only because of, the First World War necessitating that women go to work.Are you suggesting therefore, that we should have a World War instead, for Unite members to get their way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Unions in South Korea used the run-up to the 1988 Seoul Olympics as a background to get publicity for their demands. It was a military dictatorship at the time though rather than a quest to get a few bob out of the employer. http://libcom.org/history/1987-the-great-workers-struggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Are you suggesting therefore, that we should have a World War instead, for Unite members to get their way? That's McCluskey's Plan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Its the London Olympics, this is the Sheffield forum, let them get on with it. "London" has no interest in us why should we be bothered if some communist thug has a little rant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polo mint Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Perhaps somebody should throw McCluskey under the Queens horse on Derby Day. I saw something pretty similar behind a horse at the stables this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Neither, while we still have freedom of speech.If somebody should have the 'freedom of speech' to call for civil unrest, then surely racists should have the freedom of speech to demand that all non-whites be thrown out of the UK, and to restrict entry to their pubs/shops/restaurants to whites only? Or perhaps it was just a bit silly using freedom of speech to excuse somebody inciting public disorder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 If somebody should have the 'freedom of speech' to call for civil unrest, then surely racists should have the freedom of speech to demand that all non-whites be thrown out of the UK, and to restrict entry to their pubs/shops/restaurants to whites only? Racists do hold that freedom, if they can avoid using it at times that cause insult - like shouting at people on trams. Racists are perfectly allowed to hold and share racist beliefs, and be interviewed by newspapers about their racist beliefs. Restricting access to public places is not freedom of speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ousetunes Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 The guy is a tosser and should be forced to share a cold bath with his idol Arthur Scargill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebatty Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Len McCluskey is calling for civil disobedience during the Olympics. by Should he be locked up for incitement? Or should we all be able to enjoy once in a lifetime UK Olympics without a well paid union official dictating to us? This discussion would not have arisen had :- ( 1 ) . The Labour politicians represented the people the way they should have done. ( 2 ) . The government ( however it has usurped it's position ) not been so unfair towards the less able to afford its austerity measures. ( 3 ) . The government Not , so blatantly, widened the financial gap between the haves and have nots so as to make it nigh on impossible for the less able to manage financially. ( 4 ) . The government not made it even more difficult for those already on low income , by reducing what meagre support it already made . ( 5 ) . The government not attacked the pension rights of employees . And the list goes on . One can not expect such draconian measures to go on indefinitely without attracting some drastic response . Anyone who thinks differently must be blind to reality . As someone has already commented , we do have the right to freedom of speech and one would hope , the freedom to act in a reasonable manner . That , of course, depends upon the provocation meeted out in the first place . ---------- Post added 02-04-2014 at 18:41 ---------- That I couldn't tell you. Sedition has been illegal since at least 1066, under various legal guises - I'd be willing to stake my house that it still is. A point to ponder :- The law has many times been called " An Ass " - by those who can afford to do so . In many instances it has been either challenged or broken, - again by those who can afford it . I am not for one moment advocating that anyone should break the law.What I am suggesting however , is that people will resort to many methods of retaliation when pushed into a corner , and many people are pushed into that corner now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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