TheGuy Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 How charming. There is no debate to be had with someone of your mindset who wishes to deny women the right to determine their own reproductive, sexual and mental health. Perhaps by an extension to your 'logic' you would also deny people treatment for STIs? There's no debate to be had with those who wont accept that a fetus at any stage is a human life and that "its" (for want of a better word) right to live once it has been brought into existence, over-rides any inconvenience of its parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 There's no debate to be had with those who wont accept that a fetus at any stage is a human life If 1 cell is a human life then you accept sperm and ovum are also human life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuy Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 If 1 cell is a human life then you accept sperm and ovum are also human life? Its about the egg being fertilised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Its about the egg being fertilised. So any interference with a fertilised egg is murder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuy Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 So any interference with a fertilised egg is murder? I dont talk in those terms because its not necessary or helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I dont talk in those terms because its not necessary or helpful. I'm just trying to gauge how far you take this. Is it wrong to take the morning-after pill? Is an IUD (coil) wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuy Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I'm just trying to gauge how far you take this. Is it wrong to take the morning-after pill? Is an IUD (coil) wrong? To be perfectly honest with you I'm not an expert on how all the various forms controception work, but I would be against the ones that effectively terminate a human life once the process has started, which are distinct from, say, condoms, which are intended to prevent the process beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I would be against the ones that effectively terminate a human life once the process has started That's exactly what they do. That's why I picked them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 If adoption is the alternative being suggested, then it's self evident isn't it? Of course you can't find evidence for projections of what might happen, you can only use reason to estimate what will happen. Not really, some may find that they quite like the idea of being a mother after giving birth, they may have family look after or adopt the child, some may find that they receive the help and support of family and friends which they never thought they would, some may find that they can cope much better than they imagined, for some it may simply mean putting the career on hold for a year. Some may go into care, but what I`m asking is what evidence there is to suggest this would be proportional if abortion on demand was not available? It is not a given that each additional unwanted pregnancy would automatically result in an additional child in care if abortion laws were adhered to. An unwanted pregnancy does not necessarily = an unwanted baby one it's born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 It is not a given that each additional unwanted pregnancy would automatically result in an additional child in care if abortion laws were adhered to. I never asserted that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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