Mecky Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 What's he doing wrong Mecky? Limiting your over generous pension? Making the public sector efficient? Trying to reign in the national debt? Being from a "posh" background? 1) a Lot of things. 2) a pension of £5k is hardly over generous. 3) How is reducing staffing in an already understaffed public sector going to make it more efficient? If you privatise the PS it will lead to more costly services, longer waiting times and more disatified customers. 4) Reign in national debt? OK, why not close in more tax loopholes and ban offshore tax havens etc? 5)Posh background? What is a posh background? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Might as well derail the thread early, onto a more useful, more-or-less same topic I see that Ireland needs to go to the ballot box again, on the back of this new EU fiscal treaty. The fiscal compact will now go before national parliaments and, in the case of the Irish Republic, a referendum. Ireland rejected the Lisbon Treaty in a referendum in 2008, before approving it a year later after obtaining EU concessions, but the success of this fiscal treaty is unlikely to depend on Irish voters. Now, is anybody taking bets yet, on how many never-end-ums will need to be run in Ireland this time around? This made me LOL as well: Irish businessman Declan Ganley, a leading "No" campaigner in 2008, has said he may support the fiscal compact if Brussels offers Dublin better terms in bailing out its banks. The chances of a "Yes" vote were around 50-50, he was quoted as saying by Reuters news agency. The Irish...as brazenly and openly self-serving as ever. 'Gotta love them for it EDIT <etc.> 4) Reign in national debt? OK, why not close in more tax loopholes and ban offshore tax havens etc? Plenty of tax loopholes being closed every other day, most recently (and very publicly) in respect of Barclays to the tune of half a billion. As regards offshore tax havens, (i) they are mostly self-governing jurisdictions (as in 'foreign countries') so, short of invading them militarily, you can't just 'ban' them and (ii) plenty of pressure applied to them by the UK, the US, the EU and very many more Big States, especially so since 2008 (and they have been amending their tax laws accordingly, to become ever-less of a tax 'haven', and/or increased their 'collaboration' with IRS, HMRC etc. since). Do inform yourself a bit, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthedog Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 1) a Lot of things. 2) a pension of £5k is hardly over generous. 3) How is reducing staffing in an already understaffed public sector going to make it more efficient? If you privatise the PS it will lead to more costly services, longer waiting times and more disatified customers. 4) Reign in national debt? OK, why not close in more tax loopholes and ban offshore tax havens etc? 5)Posh background? What is a posh background? 1) Name some... 2) Depends what you're contributing to it. 3) The public sector is grossly inefficient. 4) Do you think everything else in this country is just perfect? If those tax loopholes were closed all our financial woes would be over I suppose? 5) I'll leave you to define that - it's you with the pathological hatred of cameron and the tories. Jealousy, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 What's he doing wrong Mecky? Limiting your over generous pension? Making the public sector efficient? Trying to reign in the national debt? Being from a "posh" background? Don't indulge him. It's a slow news day and the anti Tory ranters haven't got anything better to work with. The top story of the day is the fact that 13 years of Labour education policy means half the country can't read or write. Even the lefty loons can't blame Cameron for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafikhaus74 Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 4) Reign in national debt? OK, why not close in more tax loopholes and ban offshore tax havens etc? Or why not stop sending £80m a year to Mugabe? In fact, stop sending any money to other countries. 2) Depends what you're contributing to it. Mecky will be contributing 25% of Council Tax to pay the public sector pensions. Like the rest of us are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckerslike Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 What a childish thread! No reference to Mr Cameron crying in the article, nor anyone referring to him as "Disaster Dave". Does anyone think little David Milliband could do a better job? Mind you you have to laugh. The EU went on to have a second meeting where most everything that Cameron put forward was adopted as part of the agreement. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17229800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Well, don't say you weren't warned disasterous Dave. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17224109 You cannot do what you're doing and then expect people to listen to you. Sounds like our PM has done well. David Cameron claims EU summit win over growth plan David Cameron has claimed a UK-backed "action plan" to boost growth has set the agenda at an EU summit - having earlier complained it had been ignored. The UK PM said he had been "frustrated" that "concrete steps" urged in a letter backed by 12 EU states were not covered in early drafts of the communique. But he said the final draft had been "fundamentally rewritten in line with our demands". EU sources told the BBC Mr Cameron got about "half of what he was asking for". Mr Cameron had pointed out on Thursday night that the original draft conclusions had specifically called for issues in terms set out in a separate letter signed by France and Germany but did not include demands set out in the British-backed plan. 'Unprecedented alliance' On Friday, Mr Cameron said the first draft had "no mention" of deepening the single market in services - and there was now a "clear commitment" to take action. He said it was a similar story with demands to open up regulated professions, deregulation, completing the internal energy market and trade. France and Germany had not signed up to the letter initiated by Mr Cameron and Dutch PM Mark Rutte - but Mr Cameron said he had forged an "unprecedented alliance" in favour of open markets and trade which included traditional allies in Scandinavia - and southern EU states, Italy and Spain. Asked whether he was in a position to complain about a "Franco-German stitch-up" at an EU summit, the prime minister said: "I don't see the EU, as you put it, as a Franco-German stitch-up. "What I see it as is an organisation of 27 countries where clearly the bigger players, of which Britain is one, have a large influence. "But when you work together with like-minded allies - particularly when you can include allies from unexpected quarters - the fact that the Italians, the Spanish, the Portuguese, others are now supporting this approach - you make a real difference." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It sounds like the Eurozone is doing what is best for France and Germany and we are keeping out of that and doing what is best for Britain. That sounds like the best plan to me. Well done Cameron & well done Mecky for pointing it out. I think that at the moment, what's best for France is what's best for Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Don't indulge him. It's a slow news day and the anti Tory ranters haven't got anything better to work with. The top story of the day is the fact that 13 years of Labour education policy means half the country can't read or write. Even the lefty loons can't blame Cameron for that. Ignoring the point that your post is factually incorrect, considering more than half the population of this country finished their education long before the last series of Labour Governments came to power, I'm not sure how much "blame" can be attributed to "Labour education policy" either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Sounds like our PM has done well. Indeed it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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