taxman Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 But the problem with anything state run is it's wasteful, not fit for purpose and ends up being more expensive which is why we had privatisation in the first place. It is wasteful to pay out massive dividends to shareholders of a business that is meant to be providing a public service rather than putting those profits back into providing a better or cheaper customer service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joiner andy Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 It is wasteful to pay out massive dividends to shareholders of a business that is meant to be providing a public service rather than putting those profits back into providing a better or cheaper customer service. good point . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 But the problem with anything state run is it's wasteful, not fit for purpose and ends up being more expensive which is why we had privatisation in the first place. Not true really is it. You're just spouting ideological rhetoric as fact. It's perfectly possible for state-run enterprise to work. And it's perfectly reasonable to mix public and private enterprise in certain sectors. Some sectors can, with great care taken to protect the economy and consumers, be completely privatised but the automatic answer to everything is NOT complete privatisation of everything. The railways are a case in point - we are still subsidising them to the hilt, in fact more so than BR. Yet we have a fragmented, confusing and expensive service, our domestic train building industry has been destroyed, and there is ongoing considerable concern about track safety. If efficiency was the aim it failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 It's perfectly possible for state-run enterprise to work./QUOTE] Name one............................and define "work" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 It is wasteful to pay out massive dividends to shareholders of a business that is meant to be providing a public service rather than putting those profits back into providing a better or cheaper customer service. Now who is spouting ideological nonsense? Public services are there to serve the public. It's a fact that is always wasted on left wing idealists. If public services can be provided better and cheaper by the private sector that can only be a good thing for the customer and the tax payer. It may not be a good thing for left wing loons and unions but, hey, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Now who is spouting ideological nonsense? Public services are there to serve the public. It's a fact that is always wasted on left wing idealists. If public services can be provided better and cheaper by the private sector that can only be a good thing for the customer and the tax payer. It may not be a good thing for left wing loons and unions but, hey, who cares? But they can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 It's perfectly possible for state-run enterprise to work./QUOTE] Name one............................and define "work" I did read that according to the World Health Organisation Britains spend less per head of the population than the US on Healthcare. And Britain has largely a socialised form of healthcare, while in America it is largely private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If public services can be provided better and cheaper by the private sector that can only be a good thing for the customer and the tax payer. yes its worked well for sheffield council hasnt it ?you have a bin collection service which is costing more for less of a service? you have a private maintenance company which is also costing the taxpayer more:hihi::hihi: yea well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I did read that according to the World Health Organisation Britains spend less per head of the population than the US on Healthcare. And Britain has largely a socialised form of healthcare, while in America it is largely private. Nobody can really pretend the NHS is world-class across the board but it is cheap as a percentage of GDP and there are some genuinely world-class outcomes in some sectors of it. The day that somebody who advocates complete privatisation of the NHS tells me how major burns, trauma, liver units (i.e. places with poor outcomes) are going to be attractive funding propositions for private business and would provide adequate service and coverage for the country in a private system then I might listen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICKY BLAKE Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 would a private police company want the police stations in sheffield Hammerton road is our local one which is nearly always closed except if you arrive in the back of a Police van you are sent to Ecclesfield because it is better for the politics like the Fire stations we are going back to the mid 1960s with limited fire cover (check your hosepipe access!. Oh and if you catch a criminal forget it unless you are a large retail company they treat you as a low priority and turn up the next day backward britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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