Balpin Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Oh right, sorry it was the way you worded it. Ah by the way..... Considering I have private health insurance, private dental care, critical illness cover, sickness salary guarantee cover, comprehensive travel insurance pay about £450 each month combination of tax and national insurance through my wages - what exactly are you doing to keep me alive again?? Did I even say anything about being on the dole? I will tell you what I am doing. I am supporting, through my work and wage all those despicable things you are involved in. I am an engineer in the NHS, we support all the apparatus and services to al hospitals in the country. Without us no hospital could function. All your proudly boasted abut private means, just means that a more important case than yours is ignored, possibly to death. Your surgeon will leave a dying patient, to attend to a private patient, for the extra brass. They dont care, even though the base pay is all NHS I hope you feel good about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 The Coalition dislikes regulation, and is committed to getting rid of as much regulation as possible. I am not suggesting the Tories will get it right but they should at least try. Labour's problem was that not only did they not try but they couldn't even see there was a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Your surgeon will leave a dying patient, to attend to a private patient, for the extra brass. They dont care, even though the base pay is all NHS I hope you feel good about that. Of course, your argument would hold up better if this week we hadn't seen a case of an NHS surgeon burning down a patient on the operating table. The NHS is not as great as many would have us believe. It looks better than it is because most complaints and **** ups are ignored or covered up. Ask the people of Stafford, Liverpool, Bristol, Scarborough and a whole host of other places if the NHS is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I will tell you what I am doing. I am supporting, through my work and wage all those despicable things you are involved in. I am an engineer in the NHS, we support all the apparatus and services to al hospitals in the country. Without us no hospital could function. All your proudly boasted abut private means, just means that a more important case than yours is ignored, possibly to death. Your surgeon will leave a dying patient, to attend to a private patient, for the extra brass. They dont care, even though the base pay is all NHS I hope you feel good about that. You claim to be an engineer in the NHS but clearly have no idea how private health works. WE ALL pay taxes that contributes to the glorious NHS, subsidies to private clinics, all the equipment and your wages Mr. That's why we ALL can use the NHS if we so choose. What do you want a medal? However, if someone wants to pay a premium to upgrade the service or jump the queue why the hell not. A doctor/specialist/surgeon as you should well know is contracted to both complete both NHS and private work. They are duty bound to work a certain amount and certainly cannot leave a "dying" patient to look after a private one. You know that as well as I do. Private clinics have waiting lists too. Is it jelously that's really your issue or maybe its some bizzare utopian ideals. You are certainly not going to make me feel guilty if I choose to use up my hard earned health insurance payments to jump the queue to have a scan or surgery in a nice private hospital with hotel style accommodation if I so choose. I worked for it. I pay for it. Do you think its also a liberty for some people to get to stay in the Ritz whilst the rest of us "normal folk" have to put up with the premier inn? Come on.... if your really an "engineer" you really are making yourself sound stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Oh another thing too. Every stopped to think that it works both ways... We all pay our taxes. We are all feeling the pinch but.... Only certain people get free detnal Only certain people get free holistic therapy Only certain people get heating allowance Only certain people get childcare vouchers Only certain people get legal aid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balpin Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 You claim to be an engineer in the NHS but clearly have no idea how private health works. WE ALL pay taxes that contributes to the glorious NHS, subsidies to private clinics, all the equipment and your wages Mr. That's why we ALL can use the NHS if we so choose. What do you want a medal? However, if someone wants to pay a premium to upgrade the service or jump the queue why the hell not. A doctor/specialist/surgeon as you should well know is contracted to both complete both NHS and private work. They are duty bound to work a certain amount and certainly cannot leave a "dying" patient to look after a private one. You know that as well as I do. Private clinics have waiting lists too. Is it jelously that's really your issue or maybe its some bizzare utopian ideals. You are certainly not going to make me feel guilty if I choose to use up my hard earned health insurance payments to jump the queue to have a scan or surgery in a nice private hospital with hotel style accommodation if I so choose. I worked for it. I pay for it. Do you think its also a liberty for some people to get to stay in the Ritz whilst the rest of us "normal folk" have to put up with the premier inn? Come on.... if your really an "engineer" you really are making yourself sound stupid. Now then, stop this sillyness. I am not going to identify myself, but I am engineering supervisor at a large hospital in our area. Privatisation, and PFI is a disaster for the NHS and must be fought against all costs, it is castrophic and will lead to the end of the NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Graham Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Privatisation, and PFI is a disaster for the NHS and must be fought against all costs, it is castrophic and will lead to the end of the NHS. The end of the NHS is bad for who exactly? The government are committed to free healthcare at the point of delivery so it won't be bad for patients. What you mean is the end of the NHS would be bad for a lot of overpaid, underworked and undertalented members of the workforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 The end of the NHS is bad for who exactly? The government are committed to free healthcare at the point of delivery so it won't be bad for patients. What you mean is the end of the NHS would be bad for a lot of overpaid, underworked and undertalented members of the workforce. Are they committed to free healthcare at the point of delivery? Nobody could have guessed at the election that outsourcing police procedures would happen. Wasn't in their manifesto. And it will be very good for all those outsourcing companies that have made a mint out of public contracts like Serco, G4S, Crapita and A4E. Speaking of vested interests, is that why you're in favour of the privatisation of public services, because you've got shares in one of these compaies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 Oh and if people think that private means cheaper and more efficient, then here's a clip from yesterday's Channel 4 News which examines the role of a private interpreting service to the courts. What was intended as a cost-cutting measure will cost the government thousands of pounds every day in delays and adjournments: http://www.channel4.com/news/court-translation-service-in-crisis-after-cost-cutting-deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muldoon Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Econoob ? ---------Balpin ? ............... I can't decide ! There's only one way we can sort this out ................ fight Heh ! :hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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