JFKvsNixon Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Since taking an interest in this subject i have read quite a lot of articles online.Many of them giving contradictory information.Some journalists talking about certain ramifications that Mr Cameron has not taken into account. I just hope Mr Cameron has done his home work,because it would appear that quite a number of interested parties are confused at present. The Roman Catholic church would have refused to marry me if I asked them to, and no equality law could have forced them to marry me; so I fail to see how the situation would have changed for homosexuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Which journalists? Which politicians? Which religious leaders? What is it they are confused about? I can't remember all their blinkin names,and i didn't save all the stuff i read,so you will just have take my word for it there is confusion. In a way i wish i took the same attitude as a gay friend of mine,a male nurse i used to work with and a lovely kind man......when i asked him what he thought his reply was "I don't give a .... about gay marriage" Here are just two links.If you like i will post more this evening. http://fullfact.org/blog/same_sex_gay_marriage_polls_puplic_support_oppose-4875 http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/category/gay-marriage/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 so you will just have take my word for it there is confusion. The latter question; what is it they are confused about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncocker Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 The latter question; what is it they are confused about? Heterosexual love and heterosexual sex is about bringing the incomplete halves together to create a new being which, in turns, gives birth to yet a new sentient being....something which homosexuals are incapable of doing...are you still confused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 are you still confused? Vastly. Explain to me why your version of marriage has to affect other people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Heterosexual love and heterosexual sex is about bringing the incomplete halves together to create a new being which, in turns, gives birth to yet a new sentient being....something which homosexuals are incapable of doing...are you still confused? So do you and your loved one only "bring together your love" in order to create a new being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncocker Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Gay relationships are qualitatively different from straight relationships. they understand sex differently; they have a different model for what partners means to them and their places in our lives. The fundamental model of marriage that most heterosexuals embrace--and famously proclaim as "family values"--just doesn't apply to them. Heterosexual marriage is based around the emotional attractions of the opposite poles of the male-female polarity. This is about the complementarity of the organs of reproduction. The emotional bonding of man and woman fills the missing half of each in order to create the one whole being which then gives birth to new life. Heterosexual marriage is about bonding at the level of reproduction and subsequent creation of a nest and household in which to raise children. The model of the family is traditionally hierarchical and structured. The male and female partners have roles specified for them by their sexual function in the relationship. Gay relationships are not based on this kind of attraction at all. Sexual attraction is not about the complementarity of the physical organs. Gay people don't have sex in order to complete a bio-hormonal process. Gay people don't see their partners as "other halves,"with body parts and traits and gender-defined roles that complete them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Unbelievable that this argument is still going round and round in circles. The facts are simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Don't CUT - AND - PASTE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Gay relationships are qualitatively different from straight relationships. they understand sex differently; they have a different model for what partners means to them and their places in our lives. The fundamental model of marriage that most heterosexuals embrace--and famously proclaim as "family values"--just doesn't apply to them. Heterosexual marriage is based around the emotional attractions of the opposite poles of the male-female polarity. This is about the complementarity of the organs of reproduction. The emotional bonding of man and woman fills the missing half of each in order to create the one whole being which then gives birth to new life. Heterosexual marriage is about bonding at the level of reproduction and subsequent creation of a nest and household in which to raise children. The model of the family is traditionally hierarchical and structured. The male and female partners have roles specified for them by their sexual function in the relationship. Gay relationships are not based on this kind of attraction at all. Sexual attraction is not about the complementarity of the physical organs. Gay people don't have sex in order to complete a bio-hormonal process. Gay people don't see their partners as "other halves,"with body parts and traits and gender-defined roles that complete them. Make your own arguments up instead of plagiarising others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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