flamingjimmy Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Other posters must believe my argument has credit otherwise they would not spend so much time trying to discredit it.That too does not follow, you clearly haven't got the hang of this whole logic thing. I may have persuaded some that I am right but as they have previously commited themselves they don't want to admit I am right. Who knows ? Me! I do, I know. You have not convinced anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Whats the Muslim stance on this issue?? anybody?? I know what the Christian stance on it is so spare me! Yes i am quite interested in what other non Christian religions think not just Muslims,but other major religions.I have allready mentioned this,but have been informed that this is not relevent to the issue of Gay marriage in Christian churches. I expect though they are divided just like Christians and atheists. Since you have not made your own position clear (though the way i read your posts i assumed you were not a Christian) whatever you are though does not really concern me. What i object to is your assumption that anyone opposing to same-sex marriage in a church,must be a capitalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Er, that would be because it's not reasoned argument. ohhh I want a LIKE button! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Yes i am quite interested in what other non Christian religions think not just Muslims,but other major religions.I have allready mentioned this,but have been informed that this is not relevent to the issue of Gay marriage in Christian churches. I expect though they are divided just like Christians and atheists. Since you have not made your own position clear (though the way i read your posts i assumed you were not a Christian) whatever you are though does not really concern me. What i object to is your assumption that anyone opposing to same-sex marriage in a church,must be a capitalist. The Buddhist view is simple, it's irrelevant. Homosexuality doesn't come into Buddhism any more than hetrosexuality does. Any sexual activity in relation to the goal is unskillful because it creates desire. There is a huge list in the Vinaya about prohibited sexual actions (for monks), which cumulated in all sexual activity being prohibited. For lay followers we are simply told that unskillful (that which creates unnecessary desire) activity is not to be partaken in. There is no mention at all about homosexual behaviour being more unskillful than hetrosexual behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 The Buddhist view is simple, it's irrelevant. Homosexuality doesn't come into Buddhism any more than hetrosexuality does. Any sexual activity in relation to the goal is unskillful because it creates desire. There is a huge list in the Vinaya about prohibited sexual actions (for monks), which cumulated in all sexual activity being prohibited. For lay followers we are simply told that unskillful (that which creates unnecessary desire) activity is not to be partaken in. There is no mention at all about homosexual behaviour being more unskillful than hetrosexual behaviour. Those aren't exactly the details i was curious about,but i expect some will be interested in those facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 That too does not follow, you clearly haven't got the hang of this whole logic thing. Me! I do, I know. You have not convinced anyone. An unsubstantiated presumption ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 An unsubstantiated presumption ! You haven't convinced anyone; you don't have an argument with which to convince anyone. Your sole line of reasoning is ' because something is so, it must always be so' - which is patently utter nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 You haven't convinced anyone; you don't have an argument with which to convince anyone. Your sole line of reasoning is ' because something is so, it must always be so' - which is patently utter nonsense. I think that Harvey19 must be on a wind up, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I have consistently put forward reasons which have been ignored therefore I will now retire from this thread with a final thought, If it aint broken why mend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffragette1 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I have consistently put forward reasons which have been ignored therefore I will now retire from this thread with a final thought, If it aint broken why mend it. Because it is broken, unfair, discriminatory etc. How many times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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