flamingjimmy Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 What a bizarre interpretation! I'm not objecting to anyone getting married; I think I have made that perfectly clear. I'm objecting to the false claim that truly sterile couples, be they same-sex or mixed, can 'create' life. They cannot. That is the definition of 'sterile'. Actually no it isn't sterile refers to individuals not couples. Gay men are no more or less likely to be sterile than straight men as far as I'm aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 That sounds plausible.Whatever. (I appear to need extra characters before I can post, so these are they!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Actually no it isn't sterile refers to individuals not couples. Gay men are no more or less likely to be sterile than straight men as far as I'm aware. 'Sterile' means 'incapable of producing offspring' in this context. It is an adjective, and describes the noun 'couple'. So yes, you can have a sterile couple. Of course you can. What on earth are you trying to achieve here? Regarding your last point: so what? How is the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual male sterility relevant to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 So would this lack of ability to procreate be a good reason for denying any of these sterile couples, same sex or otherwise, the right to marry or calling such a marriage "shameful" as Cardinal Keith O' Brien thinks ?I would not have thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I would not have thought so.So are there any other reasons you can think of for denying these sterile couples, same sex or otherwise, the right to marry or for calling such a marriage "shameful" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 So are there any other reasons you can think of for denying these sterile couples, same sex or otherwise, the right to marry or for calling such a marriage "shameful" ?Err... no. This message needs extra characters before it can be posted, so here they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Err... no. This message needs extra characters before it can be posted, so here they are! So were the law to be changed to allow these sterile couples, same sex or otherwise, to marry, then from what you've said you would have no grounds for an objection, although you may not actively support the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitisbad Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 So were the law to be changed to allow these sterile couples, same sex or otherwise, to marry, then from what you've said you would have no grounds for an objection, although you may not actively support the change. It seems like it. For some their arguement is that 'the law is the law' seems a little short sighted for me but if their moral judgtements change due to what parliament says then fair enough. I just wish they;d have th emoral fortitude to stand up for what they believe in rather than go for some cop out excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksandr Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 So were the law to be changed to allow these sterile couples, same sex or otherwise, to marry, then from what you've said you would have no grounds for an objection, although you may not actively support the change.Good grief - that's exactly what I've said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Good grief - that's exactly what I've said! My apologies, from my reading you appeared to be arguing against it, I must have missed the post where you said this, my fault entirely. Thank you for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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