Green Web Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I asked you first. Why did you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0rd Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 What are you suggesting? That it returns to the its Roman origins? Err, no... just pointing out the hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Why did you ask? Because you mentioned hatred,and i expected you to be more specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Web Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Because you mentioned hatred,and i expected you to be more specific. Well isn't it obvious who they both hate the most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Well isn't it obvious who they both hate the most? No it isn't, and i really don't think hate comes into it in a collective way. Hate is a trait of individuals, You can't generalise it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Web Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 hate is what they're founded upon, simple angry gullible people need some organisation to belong to and an outlet to unleash their anger for their own short comings onto others they disapprove of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 hate is what they're founded upon, simple angry gullible people need some organisation to belong to and an outlet to unleash their anger for their own short comings onto others they disapprove of. Thats a perfect description of your position.You couldn't have put it any clearer then that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncocker Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) well, THIS Muslim thinks that if a gay couple want to marry, it absolutely doesn't affect her life one jot... So what's the difficulty? the difficulty is you're one ex muslim according to your holy book Islam considers same-sex marriages to be invalid, therefore homosexual activity is extra-marital and Islam forbids all sexual activity outside of marriage. Therefore, homosexual acts are considered to be sinful. More specifically, Islam forbids "lewdness" between men and between women, as well as between men and women who are not married to each other (Holy Qur'an, 4:16-17). In addition, numerous hadith of the Holy Prophet condemns male-male sodomy (both the insertor and the insertee) as being hateful in the sight of God and punishable by death. This position against homosexuality supports the Islamic teaching of chastity and of the sanctity of sex within marriage. do ye come unto the males, And leave the wives your Lord created for you ? Nay, but ye are froward folk.--26:165-6 Homosexual acts are condemned as unnatural. (Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you?) 7:80-81 Male homosexual activities are condemned as unnatural. 26:165-6 Male homosexuals commit abominations and act senselessly. 27:54-55 Male homosexuals acts are condemned as unnatural. 29:28-29 Edited March 19, 2012 by johncocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 the difficulty is you're one ex muslim according to your holy book Islam considers same-sex marriages to be invalid, therefore homosexual activity is extra-marital and Islam forbids all sexual activity outside of marriage. Therefore, homosexual acts are considered to be sinful. More specifically, Islam forbids "lewdness" between men and between women, as well as between men and women who are not married to each other (Holy Qur'an, 4:16-17). In addition, numerous hadith of the Holy Prophet condemns male-male sodomy (both the insertor and the insertee) as being hateful in the sight of God and punishable by death. This position against homosexuality supports the Islamic teaching of chastity and of the sanctity of sex within marriage. do ye come unto the males, And leave the wives your Lord created for you ? Nay, but ye are froward folk.--26:165-6 Homosexual acts are condemned as unnatural. (Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you?) 7:80-81 Male homosexual activities are condemned as unnatural. 26:165-6 Male homosexuals commit abominations and act senselessly. 27:54-55 Male homosexuals acts are condemned as unnatural. 29:28-29 So you agree with the Koran then Johncocker? How odd. Or is there another reason you don't want to allow gay marriages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quisquose Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I'm perfectly happy for them to take place in a civil ceremony. Why would anyone non-christian want any involvement with the church? Why indeed? But then Churches up and down the country this weekend will be welcoming atheists, marrying them, and taking money of them for the service. Whilst some Christians are turned away because they are gay. All because some militant Christians don't like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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